Worst War Movies?

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by durb » 20 Dec 2014 15:10

This pro-Soviet Hollywood propaganda production seems interesting: "Mission to Moscow" (1943) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_to_Moscow

Youtube has some clips of this masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Q33vF7kVE

I wonder how the movie would be seen by Polish, Baltic, Finnish audiences - could they stand to see the whole 2 hours that film lasts? - And on the other hand how it would be seen by Russian audience? What did Stalin and Molotov like of it if they saw it? - AFAIK, Stalin and Molotov are portrayed in the film as moderate pacifist politicians with good intentions toward people inside and outside of USSR. The purges of late 1930´s are found justified and the trials were correct justice processes.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by AJFFM » 20 Dec 2014 19:48

In terms of plot, Saving Private Ryan. Great realism (probably the most realist of all WWII films) but American superheroes ride again!

In terms of production, Where Eagles Dare, great story, horrible at WWII re-enactment despite the fact that half the production team either served or grew up during WWII.

Overall, Rambo II par excellence!

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Gamle Lode » 25 Jan 2015 16:35

durb wrote:This pro-Soviet Hollywood propaganda production seems interesting: "Mission to Moscow" (1943) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_to_Moscow

Youtube has some clips of this masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Q33vF7kVE

I wonder how the movie would be seen by Polish, Baltic, Finnish audiences - could they stand to see the whole 2 hours that film lasts? - And on the other hand how it would be seen by Russian audience? What did Stalin and Molotov like of it if they saw it? - AFAIK, Stalin and Molotov are portrayed in the film as moderate pacifist politicians with good intentions toward people inside and outside of USSR. The purges of late 1930´s are found justified and the trials were correct justice processes.
I would like to coin a term sovietismo to cover all new and old pro-Soviet bs there is around.

Such film would definitely be sovietismo.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by von thoma » 25 Jan 2015 18:14

And " Fury " ( 2014 ), deserves to be here ?
" The right to believe is the right of those who don't know "

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Gamle Lode » 26 Jan 2015 20:28

von thoma wrote:And " Fury " ( 2014 ), deserves to be here ?
So far about 10% of my posts on the AHF explain how bad the movie is.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 10 Feb 2015 00:51

See earlier Link for commnets on "Fury" :oops:

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Acts 2/38 » 13 Feb 2015 05:40

The White Ghost staring William Katt. This movie is at the bottom of the Pacific as far as being the worst. The second worst, whatever it is, is about 100 meters below the surface.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 13 Feb 2015 14:31

What is the second worst after "The White Ghost"?

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 20 Feb 2015 00:19

Just came Across
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_from_Stalingrad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Russia

What rating on "Worst War Movies" ?? :wink:

Saw a summary of The White Ghost--rip off of Rambo ..........and Acpocholypse NOW........ :lol: :lol: :lol:


Another movie made 1953 as a "comedy" but dopey enough to have been a WW II Homefront movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Sea_Woman with Chuck COnners and Burt Lancaster
WHAt a waste to talent! :roll:
It almost as bad as "Tell it to the Marines"

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 18 Mar 2015 16:00

see link on Movie and anti hitler cartoon that were released too late
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4&t=214488

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by durb » 18 Mar 2015 16:57

Hollywood interpretation of the heroic allies of Soviet Union during WW2 = one of sure recipes of disaster movie?

But taking in account the time when there was political need for this kind of propaganda and comparing them to other films in which Americans describe other nationalities based on little real knowledge and using stereotypes - maybe they are not so much worse than lets say some other WW2 films with French rrresistance fighters and Germans speaking some "Germenglish".

I think that Mission to Moscow is in its own class when it comes to pro-Soviet Hollywood propaganda of 1940´s. Specially how it described the Stalin´s purges of 1930´s as great achievements of Soviet anti-espionage and the following trial processes like normal justice processes where all the formalities of the fair trial were respected.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 18 Mar 2015 17:22

Definately for the Home Front
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tartu

Of course the Allies didnt have a monoploy on films such as "The Adeventures of Tartu" :lol: :thumbsup:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Traito ... an_film%29
See summary at Movie datbase

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Topspeed » 18 Mar 2015 20:15

Nazis from the center of the Earth.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 23 May 2015 14:22

Despite combined talents of Alfred Hitchcock, E.G. Robinson and Orson Wells--1946 "The Stranger" was an unbelievable story line and ludicrous ending
At least it did have actual films of KZ liberations

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 01 Jun 2015 15:26

Postwar movies about WW II were just as bad as that hometown propaganda slop for the masses. :lol: :lol:
Such as "Van Ryan's Express" painfully ludicrous story-such as just imprisoning the evil POW kommandant as a bit of ENglish Fair Play...
Otto Preminger "Stalag XVII" was just as bad...Preminger is the sterotype arrogant Prussian/German Nazi/Warden....and Will Holden...hiding in Cold water for days...without getting frostbite or t.B. or trying to make it through Super paranoid Germany without papers, without speaking German and as if the Germans wouldn't think of circulating his POW ID Photo everywhere....what is especially bad is the the POWS throw the German Spy {Peter Graves} out so he will be killed by German guards..and then just going to sleep....in real life the evil Kommandnat would have had them roused out of bed and asked who exposed the spy and let Holden escape?? and if they dont answear he would turn them over to the GESTAPO.....NIGHT AND FOG DEGREE would be THEIR FATE....Known BUT TO G-D

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