Worst War Movies?

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by von thoma » 23 Jan 2016 19:59

Counterpoint ( 1968 ).
Boring and boring....
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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 16 Feb 2016 02:30

Desparte Journet {1942}

after seeing Flynn and hale in Advetures of Robin Hood {excellent} and Raymond Massy in Abe Lincoln in Illinois {beleivable} ..comes to "Desperate Journey...Pathatic...Comic Book story.....just change the Nazi Uniforms/Europe to Japanese Uniforms/Asia....got another movie for the Home Front!! Gestapo Officer Raymond Massy wears a German ARmy Unform......

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by von thoma » 17 Feb 2016 23:51

Desperate Journey {1942}
Was in this in this film where appears one Himmler's order that says :
"The prisoners will be guillotined face up" ??
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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 05 Mar 2016 00:00

How about "Despartly they Live" a 1943 John Garfield movie in which at least 4 U Boat models are sunk by aircraft which changed from RAF Bombers to Fighters to Dombers! ALso the falling bombs sequence keep getting repeated!... Never have so many toy model Uboats been sunk in a ....bathtub?

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Nickdfresh » 06 Mar 2016 17:05

JAG13 wrote:
Phaing wrote:
AJFFM wrote:In terms of plot, Saving Private Ryan. Great realism (probably the most realist of all WWII films) but American superheroes ride again!

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Well, we certainly can't have a movie that makes American's look good, can we? Might be accused of being racists or something. :roll:


You know, looking at this list, I have to wonder, has a GOOD war movie ever been made? By anyone?
Ever?
Besides A Bridge to Far, I mean.

My vote for the worst; Inglorious Basterds. They should have known better.
SPR was a sh!t sandwich, a piece of crap sandwiched between the two of the best battle sequences in history.

Most USian movies are not too far from GI Joe, the cartoon that is.
AJFFM wrote:
Don't take it personally dude, all what I demanded is realism and American war films are notorious for have a lone gunman (Rambo) or a cut off rifle squad mowing down crack* X enemy divisions as if they were on a Turkey shoot as the American saying goes.
GI Joe...

...this is what most US movies look like:



Best movie ever btw...
I agree the plot of Saving Private Ryan was silly, tear-jerking sentimentality and rife with the Tom Brokaw "Greatest Generation" crap, but it had its moments and is decently acted. I don't think calling it shat is quit fair. I also don't get the "American superheroes" argument as more Americans die in the film I'm guessing than Germans do...

The problem with the film is it overreaches and the writer is sort of a sappy douche that tends to piss all over the history he writes screen plays for in order to conjure a romantic image that is tantamount to propaganda. (i.e. Braveheart)...

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Nickdfresh » 06 Mar 2016 17:20

JAG13 wrote:...

...this is what most US movies look like:



Best movie ever btw...
Or this: :lol:

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by JAG13 » 14 May 2016 23:31

Nickdfresh wrote:I agree the plot of Saving Private Ryan was silly, tear-jerking sentimentality and rife with the Tom Brokaw "Greatest Generation" crap, but it had its moments and is decently acted. I don't think calling it shat is quit fair. I also don't get the "American superheroes" argument as more Americans die in the film I'm guessing than Germans do...

The problem with the film is it overreaches and the writer is sort of a sappy douche that tends to piss all over the history he writes screen plays for in order to conjure a romantic image that is tantamount to propaganda. (i.e. Braveheart)...
Maybe calling the movie shit is a bit much, but it was a massive let down after an amazing start that let me feeling like there were 2 movies, a war one and crappy soap opera shoved in between. Somewhere else I called Fury the anti-SPR, that movie was its polar opposite, a great war drama with some of the shittiest battle sequences in history!

Movies like that were the ones I was referring to with the GI Joe comment, the legion of shitty movies with lemming enemies...

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No I'm kidding, it is actually one of the best war movies. Very funny.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by BillHermann » 27 Nov 2016 03:08

I get a kick out of posts that say this movie from 1940 something sucks or is the worst movie ever. Think about when the movie was made and it's purpose.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Phaing » 14 Mar 2017 05:13

Okay, so American movies are just terrible because they make the Heroes look too good. Or too good at killing the bad guys.
So, who does a better job?
Are Italian movies better? More dignified and realistic?
How about Russian ones? To be realistic, most of the people who die would have to be Russians. So.... must be true, right?
I'm sure the Chinese would never run up too high a body count, "lemmings", isn't that the term? (in fact, China Uncensored reported that the number of Japanese Chars in WW2 killed every year is getting close to a 6-digit number)
The British would NEVER make their heroes look good at the expense of others, now would they? :?

Come ON, you guys must have a country in mind that does a consistently better job than the US with their War Movies when it comes to believability, understated Characters, spot-on realism of everything in the movie, and an enjoyable movie-going experience.

Remember, since you guys opened up the entire genre', its not about individual movies anymore, but the entire production run of our respective nations.


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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by B Hellqvist » 25 Mar 2017 00:25

I think the Finns have a pretty good record of realistic war movies. As for enjoyable movie-going experience, that's subjective, as some prefer drama, others action, and still others realism.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by JAG13 » 25 Mar 2017 01:02

Phaing wrote:Okay, so American movies are just terrible because they make the Heroes look too good. Or too good at killing the bad guys.
So, who does a better job?
Are Italian movies better? More dignified and realistic?
How about Russian ones? To be realistic, most of the people who die would have to be Russians. So.... must be true, right?
I'm sure the Chinese would never run up too high a body count, "lemmings", isn't that the term? (in fact, China Uncensored reported that the number of Japanese Chars in WW2 killed every year is getting close to a 6-digit number)
The British would NEVER make their heroes look good at the expense of others, now would they? :?

Come ON, you guys must have a country in mind that does a consistently better job than the US with their War Movies when it comes to believability, understated Characters, spot-on realism of everything in the movie, and an enjoyable movie-going experience.

Remember, since you guys opened up the entire genre', its not about individual movies anymore, but the entire production run of our respective nations.


.... do I hear Crickets? :milwink:
Lol! That is too easy, German movies, go watch them.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by Trevor Philips » 14 Jul 2017 08:42

Stalingrad directed by Fedor Bondarchuk. You have to be totally unaware of the historical facts if you even remotely like this movie. This is not a movie about Stalingrad at all! Russian soldiers appeared as cartoon superheroes... This should've been an epic historical movie about the famous battle.
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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by B Hellqvist » 14 Jul 2017 15:20

Trevor Philips wrote:Stalingrad directed by Fedor Bondarchuk. You have to be totally unaware of the historical facts if you even remotely like this movie. This is not a movie about Stalingrad at all! Russian soldiers appeared as cartoon superheroes... This should've been an epic historical movie about the famous battle.
I agree. That movie was a huge disappointment. Great sets and plenty of resources, but a story which - like so many other newer Russian war movies - was totally pulled out of the ass.

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Re: Worst War Movies?

Post by PF » 17 Jan 2018 02:50

This was post war...but how a bout "The Magic Face"
It was made 1951 stariing Jewish actor Luther Adler as Hitler valet...who kills him..takes his place...and ruins the German War effort!
Sounds suspiciously similar to "The Great Dictator"...The only problem with Chaplin movie is that it came out too late....1939...it would have had perhaps a better impact in 1931-1932

PS Adller also played Hitler in a Movie about Rommel the Desert Fox...and also in a 1960
comic relef episode "Man in a Bottle" as foolish pawnbroker who wastes the third of his last 4 genie wishes and ends up as Hitler about to commit suicide...[UGH]

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