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Dunkirk

Post by James A Pratt III » 01 Sep 2016 03:34

Since no one has posted it I will there is a movie entitled Dunkirk in the works about the evacuation in 1940. There is a trailer for it on youtube. also on youtube is the 1950s movie Dunkirk

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Other Dunkirk movies

Post by Helmut0815 » 02 Oct 2016 12:33

Dunkirk (1958)


Weekend at Zuydcoote (1964)



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Post by Linford » 11 Oct 2016 13:37

What you think about new film about Dunkirk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJePvN_4T_E

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Post by Stephen_Rynerson » 19 Dec 2016 05:14

A new, longer trailer has been released. Except for Branagh (who I otherwise generally enjoy), I think it looks pretty good!


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Post by Stiltzkin » 19 Dec 2016 15:39

There is always danger of pathos in such movies.

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Post by Nickdfresh » 19 Dec 2016 18:41

It does look good, my issue is that nowhere in the first trailer are the French to be seen. They made a decisive stand of "the 300" that held the town and enabled the escape...

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Post by Stiltzkin » 21 Dec 2016 21:13

British directors, go figure...

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Post by Nickdfresh » 22 Dec 2016 23:16

There was a bit of a stink when the first trailer was released: http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthr ... post197313

The actor/extra three deep in on the right has an awkward smirk on his face. But in the above thread we concluded that it was quite plausible that someone went batshit crazy in the face of constant bombardment...
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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Nickdfresh » 22 Dec 2016 23:17

Dupe 8O

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Post by peccavi » 23 Dec 2016 13:07

All these actors are too well fed.

Survivors of Dunkirk were boys from the hungry 30s, almost all less than 5ft 6ins and very emaciated by modern standards.

In my father's company, 5 soldiers weighed less than 8 Stone (110lbs) and had to report daily to the cookhouse for extra bottles of milk to build them up.

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Post by LineDoggie » 24 Dec 2016 02:47

peccavi wrote:All these actors are too well fed.

Survivors of Dunkirk were boys from the hungry 30s, almost all less than 5ft 6ins and very emaciated by modern standards.

In my father's company, 5 soldiers weighed less than 8 Stone (110lbs) and had to report daily to the cookhouse for extra bottles of milk to build them up.
Emaciated? Almost all? a major exaggeration looking at images from the actual evacuation

So 5 out of a 100+ men were underweight?
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Post by Knouterer » 26 Dec 2016 14:55

Certainly a lot of recruits joining the army were underweight/malnourished, but it was one of the tasks of the regimental depots (where new recruits spent at least four months) to build them up physically before they were assigned to battalions. The men at Dunkirk had been in the army for six months or longer, very much longer in case of the (ex-)regulars who were still well represented at the time. In early 1940, rations for soldiers stationed in the United Kingdom were reduced somewhat to 10 ounces (283 gram) of meat, 1.5 ounces of bacon and 12 ounces of bread per day, which with various other items provided about 4,000 calories per day. Women (ATS) got four-fifths of the scale for men (this was later adjusted and women got slightly less meat but more fruit and vegetables than men).

March 1941 scale for soldiers in training, anti-aircraft or coast defence, or awaiting embarkation:
Meat - 6 oz (170 gram)
Bacon - 12/7 oz
Offal or sausages - 15/7 oz
Bread - 10 oz
Flour - 2 oz
Butter or margarine - 1.5 oz
Cheese - 4/7 oz
Milk - 3 oz
Sugar - 2 oz
Potatoes - 13 oz (369 gram)
Fresh vegetables - 55/7 oz
Tea - 2/7 oz

NAAFI canteens provided additional food (and drink) at low prices if required. In France with the BEF, it was generally possible to purchase food locally. Of course, during the retreat, many men were poorly fed for days, but not to the point that they looked emaciated, I would assume.

Source: Anthony Clayton, Battlefield Rations - The Food Given to the British Soldier for Marching and Fighting 1900-2011.
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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Knouterer » 29 Dec 2016 09:04

The criticism that actors look too well fed certainly applies to movies about the American Civil War like Gettysburg. By that time, the Confederate army was half-starved, but many of the Confederate reenactors playing in such movies are typical Americans of today, apple-cheeked and 50 lbs or more overweight.
On the other hand, I read somewhere that some of them specialise in representing "bloaters", i.e. the bloated corpses of fallen soldiers that have been left out in the sun for a few days.
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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Nickdfresh » 29 Dec 2016 16:16

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The above Tommies do not look significantly malnourished to me...

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