"Cross of Iron" question

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"Cross of Iron" question

Post by Ingsoc75 » 22 Jun 2004 00:08

Did anybody notice that Col. Brandt had his KRIM shield on his right arm?

After Steiner sees Schnurrbart at the hospital and they leave for the front there is a scene where the truck drives over a body in the mud. The body had a German helmet on. If they were behind the lines wouldn't somebody of picked up the fallen comrade?

Cross of Iron is one of my favorite WW2 films from the German perspective and has been since I first saw it when I was 10 back in the mid 1980's. I got the DVD a couple of years ago (which was disappointing) and I managed to get the Willi Heinrich novel off Amazon back in the late 90's which was good.

Granted it's not as flashy as todays WW2 flicks and does look dated with the haircuts and all but it's a classic!!!

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Post by Gregorich » 27 Jun 2004 21:05

Hey another Cross of Iron fan! :D To answer your question about the truck driving over the body of a German soldier behind the lines, it is possible that Sam Peckinpah (the director of Cross of Iron) wanted to use it as an example of the brutality of war on the Eastern Front, or at least something along the lines of that. That's the first possible answer that I can think up.

Other than that, I highly recommend this film to anyone and everyone. It's an extremely good movie and also a very good book. Another good movie that I recently had a chance to see is a Russian movie called "Come & See", it's also a very good movie, but extremely hard to find from what I hear.

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Post by Major Koch » 27 Jun 2004 21:25

I saw this movie last week. One of the best.
No bad words about James Coburn, but why didn't they use a famous german actor for example Curd Jürgens?

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Post by bryson109 » 28 Jun 2004 01:30

One of my favourite WWII movies two. I have not seen it in a while though, maybe I'll buy the DVD. :D

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Post by Klaus Yurk » 28 Jun 2004 02:13

Like "Cross of Iron" a lot. Not bad for a Hollywood effort. Plus James Coburn was, I think, born in Nebraska 8)

Gregorich,

What is "Come & See" about? Specifically. Worth ordering from a Internet movie distributor?

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Post by Gregorich » 28 Jun 2004 21:41

Hey,

Klaus York, "Come & See" is an extremely good movie, in my opinion at least. You can find more information on it at:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/

and here it is at amazon, it has a few reviews from people who have also seen the movie

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000BWVCR/qid=1088454885/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-6096179-3848617?v=glance&s=dvd


To sum up the movie quickly it is about a Russian boy who joins the partisans in Belarus/White Russia, and it just shows what he goes through in a short while when he is with them.

I think it's an extremely good movie, but check out the websites for some more information on it for yourself :)

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Post by Ingsoc75 » 28 Jun 2004 21:45

"Come and See" is good film. The climatic end is kind of trippy with the yoddling (sp?) music playing and the germans getting drunk.

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The Lyrics of Cross of Iron

Post by Kim Sung » 06 Aug 2005 16:08

Kinderlied :

Haenschen klein ging allein in die weite Welt hinein
Stock und Hut steht ihm gut,ist gar wohlgemuet.
Aber Mutter weinet sehr, hat ja nun kein Haenschen mehr:
"Wuensch' dir Glueck !",sagt ihr Blick "kehr nun bald zuruek !"

Sieben jahr'trueb und klar Haenschen in der Fremde war,
da besinnt sich das Kind eilet heim geschwind.
Doch nun ist's kein Haenschen mehr, nein, ein glosser Hans ist er,
braungebrannt Stirn und Hand.
Wirt er wohl erkannt

Eins,zwei,drei,geh'n vorbei wissen nicht wer das wohl sei,
Schwester spricht: "Welch Gesicht",kennt den Bruder nicht !
Doch da kommt sein Muetterlein, schaut ihm kaum in's Aug'hinein,
spricht sie schon:"Hans,mein Sohn, Gruess dich Gott, mein Sohn !"


Birthday song for Lt. Meyer :

Hoch soll er leben, hoch soll er leben, dreimal hoch !
Alt soll er werden, alt soll er leben, dreimal hoch !
Er lebe hoch,hoch, hoch,


The Song of Westerwald (Sung after the birthday party) :

Heute wollen wir marschier'n, einen neuen Marsch probier'n,
in dem schoenen Westerwald , ja, da pfeift der Wind so kalt.

Oh, du schoener Westerwald ! Uber deine Hoehen pfeift der
Wind so kalt, jedoch der kleinste Sonnenschein
dringt tief ins Herz hinein.
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Translation of Russian Soldiers' Dialogue

Post by Kim Sung » 06 Aug 2005 16:21

I'm now translating Russian soldiers' dialogues in 'Cross of Iron'. After completing this work, I'll let you all know.
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Post by Kaiser Franz » 07 Aug 2005 23:46

does anyone know what the original ending was for the movie? suposedly they ran out O' money and had to improv...quite sad really as the ending was wierd, a bad ending for a great movie, but how does it end in the book...perhaps it would have ended similar in the movie as well..

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Translation of Dialogue of Russian Soldiers in Cross of Iron

Post by Kim Sung » 08 Aug 2005 03:20

My Russian is not perfect, but I tried my best.

This part is the first scene in which Steiner's platoon attacks a Russian granade thrower unit.

Captain : Keep firing!

Soldier : Yes, sir. Captain!

(This dialogue is repeated)

Unknown Voice : We seem to have hit them.

Soldier : We've hit them!

Soldier : Our casualties are increasing, sir!

Captain : The enemy also couldn't take this any more.

Soldier : Yes, sir. We still have ammunition for 1 hour.

Soldier : We can see nothing!

Unknown Voice : Take care!!!
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Post by Kurz Patrone » 10 Aug 2005 12:41

Can you post pictures of the scene when the ruskies assault the german positions,
when lt Meyer gets killed.
btw i think Croos of iron is one of the best war movies ever made.
ps:did you know that they cut around 2 hours from the film because they found it
to be violent and sex oriented!!
where are those deleted scenes!!!!?
Mauro.

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Post by Kim Sung » 10 Aug 2005 13:26

I don't know how to find the film clips of the part cut from the original film, but here I post pictures of the scene when the Russians assault the german positions, when Lt. Meyer gets killed. He deserves an Iron Cross!

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Meyer Scene I

Post by Kim Sung » 10 Aug 2005 14:22

Vorwärts!~~~
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Meyer Scene II

Post by Kim Sung » 10 Aug 2005 14:25

Heil Meyer!
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