Best War Movie Ever

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Re: Best War Movie Ever

Post by askropp » 07 Sep 2020 15:04

An Obergefreiter is not a Corporal. :milwink:

Regarding the list:
- Cross of Iron, consented
- Der Untergang, good but with an unintended apologetic tendence (neither Ernst Günther Schenck nor Traudl Junge were "good" Nazis!)
- Idi i smotri, consented
- UMUV, good but way too much ahistoric, improbable and even absurd elements
- Das Boot, consented
Er ist wieder da. Aber auch dieses Mal wird er nicht siegen!

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Re: Best War Movie Ever

Post by Ivan Ž. » 07 Sep 2020 15:12

To me all the value of "Der Untergang" lies in Bruno Ganz's amazing, amazing performance. The rest is less relevant. I can't forget the first time he appeared in the film (walking through that door and thanking the ladies for coming so late) and myself thinking: "Damn - that is Hitler."

There are errors in ranks/insignia in "Cross of Iron" (incl. Steiner's), but, as we know, the value of the film is not in such details ;)

What I liked about "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter" requires a longer reply, for which I don't have the time. But the details I particularly liked (loved) about it had least to do with history and most with human nature (which is, sadly, often absurd ;) ).

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Re: Best War Movie Ever

Post by Hans1906 » 07 Sep 2020 16:10

Good afternoon,

here a link to a documentary about Herr Bruno Ganz:

"Nightly conversations with the actor Bruno Ganz (1941-2019) in his Zurich apartment about his life and the most important stages of his career are the starting point and guide of this journey into the universe of the great Swiss actor. The result is an extraordinary document, full of closeness and openness (for copyright reasons, individual film and theater excerpts had to be shortened or omitted altogether).
Jens Harzer (who gives the laudatory speech at the beginning of the article) was chosen by Bruno Ganz to be the new bearer of the Iffland Ring (the most important award for an actor in the German-speaking world).
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To reduce the swiss actor Bruno Ganz to his one role as Adolf Hitler is a serious mistake, without question,
and the actor Bruno Ganz would certainly not like that either.

Bruno Ganz - Gespräch: Stationen einer Karriere (2004) (Bruno Ganz - Conversation - Stages of a Career)

The Video:




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Re: Best War Movie Ever

Post by Ivan Ž. » 07 Sep 2020 16:16

Hans1906 wrote:
07 Sep 2020 16:10
To reduce the swiss actor Bruno Ganz to his one role as Adolf Hitler is a serious mistake, without question,
and the actor Bruno Ganz would certainly not like that either.
Yup! That goes without saying ;)

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Re: Best War Movie Ever

Post by Hans1906 » 07 Sep 2020 17:12

Ivan,

a german saying in low german language is:

"Wat den eenen sin Uhl, is den annern sin Nachtigall!"

Translation from the low german language dialect to "hochdeutsch" is difficult, let me give it a try:

"What is someones luck, is another mans misery!"

The same with all these war movies, you just have to decide, what fits your personal need, what was and is important at all.

There is probably not more to this.


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Re: Best War Movie Ever

Post by ChristopherPerrien » 26 Oct 2020 23:55

Well if most wars are fought over "trading rights and business' and if you care to take a lane change into "what-ifs" , I do suggest
"The Bushido Blade" , It starts and and flows quite "different " from most movies. I don't think there is another movie with as many camera shots. Please let it run and realize this movie definitely ain't PC . Might be the best movie ever made, It is a fantasy-adventure but also a "war-movie" much like "The Man who would be King"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUjqgOlXVnY

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