Best War Movie Ever

[askropp]

An Obergefreiter is not a Corporal.

Regarding the list:
- Cross of Iron, consented
- Der Untergang, good but with an unintended apologetic tendence (neither Ernst Günther Schenck nor Traudl Junge were "good" Nazis!)
- Idi i smotri, consented
- UMUV, good but way too much ahistoric, improbable and even absurd elements
- Das Boot, consented

[Ivan Ž.]

To me all the value of "Der Untergang" lies in Bruno Ganz's amazing, amazing performance. The rest is less relevant. I can't forget the first time he appeared in the film (walking through that door and thanking the ladies for coming so late) and myself thinking: "Damn - that is Hitler."

There are errors in ranks/insignia in "Cross of Iron" (incl. Steiner's), but, as we know, the value of the film is not in such details

What I liked about "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter" requires a longer reply, for which I don't have the time. But the details I particularly liked (loved) about it had least to do with history and most with human nature (which is, sadly, often absurd ).

[Hans1906]

Good afternoon,

here a link to a documentary about Herr Bruno Ganz:

"Nightly conversations with the actor Bruno Ganz (1941-2019) in his Zurich apartment about his life and the most important stages of his career are the starting point and guide of this journey into the universe of the great Swiss actor. The result is an extraordinary document, full of closeness and openness (for copyright reasons, individual film and theater excerpts had to be shortened or omitted altogether).
Jens Harzer (who gives the laudatory speech at the beginning of the article) was chosen by Bruno Ganz to be the new bearer of the Iffland Ring (the most important award for an actor in the German-speaking world).."

To reduce the swiss actor Bruno Ganz to his one role as Adolf Hitler is a serious mistake, without question,
and the actor Bruno Ganz would certainly not like that either.

Bruno Ganz - Gespräch: Stationen einer Karriere (2004) (Bruno Ganz - Conversation - Stages of a Career)

The Video:




Hans1906

[Ivan Ž.]

To reduce the swiss actor Bruno Ganz to his one role as Adolf Hitler is a serious mistake, without question,
and the actor Bruno Ganz would certainly not like that either.

Yup! That goes without saying

[Hans1906]

Ivan,

a german saying in low german language is:

"Wat den eenen sin Uhl, is den annern sin Nachtigall!"

Translation from the low german language dialect to "hochdeutsch" is difficult, let me give it a try:

"What is someones luck, is another mans misery!"

The same with all these war movies, you just have to decide, what fits your personal need, what was and is important at all.

There is probably not more to this.


Hans1906

[ChristopherPerrien]

Well if most wars are fought over "trading rights and business' and if you care to take a lane change into "what-ifs" , I do suggest
"The Bushido Blade" , It starts and and flows quite "different " from most movies. I don't think there is another movie with as many camera shots. Please let it run and realize this movie definitely ain't PC . Might be the best movie ever made, It is a fantasy-adventure but also a "war-movie" much like "The Man who would be King"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUjqgOlXVnY

[ZerehKoob]

Well, I recently Watched a few Russian war movies, among them I would recommend these ones:

The Star, The Brest Fortress, Tankist, Lieutenant, Sunsets are quiet here (or Something like this, about a group of Female soldiers) and some other ones that i cant remember their titles, in Russian or English.

[Hans1906]

Yesterday night also on the german TV channel "Tele 5" the US production "Die Caine war ihr Schicksal". (1954)

Die Caine war ihr Schicksal https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Caine ... _Schicksal
The Caine Mutiny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_(film)

I have seen this true classic probably more than 30 times since my childhoods years, in the cinema, and later on the TV,
also the VHS version in the german dubbed version...

What to say about this movie, still: WOW!!!
Mr. Humphrey Bogart as "Queeg" absolutely stunning, phantastic, unmatched. Very recommended!

Humphrey Bogart https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart


Hans1906

In my very personal "rating" Paths of Glory and The Caine Mutiny are in my fav. "Top Ten" of all times.

[Hans1906]

I watched "The Eagle Has Landed" (G:"Der Adler ist gelandet)" just one more time in the german late night TV lately.

Formerly considered a reasonably good film, measured by today's standards, a complete laughing stock, and a real disappointment, what a nonsense.

Der Adler ist gelandet (1976): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074452/

Hard to bear, but certainly typical for the time in the mid 1970s...

Oha!


Hans1906

[Hans1906]

Another "new" movie in the Arte mediathek:

The 317th Platoon / La 317ème section

Translation from the Arte website:

"1954, Laos - still eight days before the French defeat in the Indochina War: A group of soldiers, four Frenchmen and 41 Laotians, are to fight their way from their outpost on the northern border back into the interior through the impenetrable jungle. - The fictional war report (1967) by director Pierre Schoendoerffer is based on true events."

Link to Arte with a 2 minute preview: https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/098731-00 ... 7-sektion/

Wiki (E) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_317th_Platoon
Wiki (G) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_317._Sektion

"Antony Beevor: the greatest war movie ever – and the ones I can't bear" https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/m ... -cant-bear


Hans

P.S. The film is currently on Arte, me please not understand why this film is broadcast in the early afternoon hours, when perhaps children are sitting unsupervised in front of the TV...

[Hans1906]

Watched the "Darkest Hour" lately for the second time, hard stuff for a german bastard like me...

Stunning!
Oldman as Churchill frighteningly good, makes you speechless.

Darkest Hour (film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkest_Hour_(film)


Hans

[Topspeed]

There can be only one...

BLUE MAX:

https://ww2.123moviesfree.love/watch-mo ... watchnow=1

[movieninja]

There are so many great war movies out there, it's hard to choose just one as the best. But if I had to choose, I would say Saving Private Ryan is the best war movie ever. It's a gripping and intense film that really captures the horrors of war. It's also a well-made movie with great acting and stunning visuals.

[jbroshot]

Belatedly, since I just recently re-engaged with this site

This movie, I think, has only been mentioned once in the previous postings

"Battleground" 1949

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleground_(film)

James Whitmore as the platoon sergeant is great (and was nominated for an Academy Award)
For you American western TV series fans, Marshal Matt Dillon gets killed in this movie

And, a rather superficial WWII aviation movie, but fun to watch as real P-47s were used (but P-51 Mustangs stood in for Me 109s)

"Fighter Squadron" 1948

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter_Squadron

[Ponury]

What I liked about "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter" requires a longer reply, for which I don't have the time. But the details I particularly liked (loved) about it had least to do with history and most with human nature (which is, sadly, often absurd ).

Fabular bottom. Whitening Germans, at the expense of Poles. What is part of the German policy for a long time. Doubling the role of the perpetrators, Jews almost in love with Germans, etc. Ba, Jewish refugees in one of the episodes almost flee to the Germans in front of Polish partisans. Nonsense. There were many memes on this subject. Cinema in the worst edition.