Original German vehicles in Movies

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Post by kradman » 11 Dec 2008 18:32

Christian W. wrote:The Hetzers used in the movie " Captain Corellis Mandolini " seemed to be real. I have watched the scene several times though I really doubt the Tiger on the movie was real.

Hello the Hetzers were the postwar Czech made G13 that the Swiss army had in service there differed from the original ww2 Hetzers in Several ways the Swiss G13 had a muzzle brake fitted as it had the 7.5 cm Stuk 40 gun where the ww2 Hetzers had 7.5cm pak39 gun which dont have a muzzle brake , there was other things like roof hatches, lights and other small fittings etc also and the roof dome which was used on ww2 Hetzers

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by kradman » 11 Dec 2008 18:52

Does anyone know if the two 6 wheel Mercedes benz staff cars seen in the film Night of the Generals Film are original ?

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Russian fake Tigers

Post by lurban » 13 Jan 2009 01:08

Hello,
I found this forum by searching for "private ryan tiger t-34" on google.
A week or so ago I was watching SPR on TV. I was impressed by the tigers shown in the movie. For a while I was even suspecting that they are original. Only until I saw the setup of wheels. I wanted to 100% check it and that's how I got here.
I went through this thread and have the following comments:
1. Indeed, you comment only western movies here while there are at least several interesting war movies from behind the former iron curtain. I think the must-see is the Russian series "Osvobozhdeniye", which can be translated as "Liberation". It's a 5-episode series, which for sure can be named as the largest war movie ever made. It was made in 1969-1970. They employed thousands of soldiers and hundreds of tanks. Actors playing main characters were recruited from various countries (e.g. Germans from East Germany were playing Germans). They start from the Kursk battle and end up with the battle of Berlin. Many scenes are pure soviet propaganda and special effects are far away from e.g. SPR quality, nevertheless the movie is really unique due to its scale. Coming to the topic, Russians prepared fake tigers for this movie. I will try to get some pictures and post them here - perhaps you will be able to identify which tank they took as the basis.
Recently I have ordered DVD box "Classics of soviet cinema", half of which are other soviet war movies. Perhaps some of them prove interesting. Will keep posting you on that.
2. Someone here had problems with identifying "Kelly's Heroes", which had different titles in various Eastern European countries. In Poland its was titled "Gold for bold" :)

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by Dubliner » 13 Jan 2009 01:30

Hello Lurban,

I have not seen all 5 episodes, but the "Tigers" are based on T-44s, and the "Panthers" are based on IS-2s.

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Russian fake Tigers - pictures

Post by lurban » 13 Jan 2009 02:04

As promised. Wasn't able to produce screenshots... :oops:
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Osvobozhienye - more pictures

Post by lurban » 13 Jan 2009 02:06

This time not only German stuff...
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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by Dubliner » 13 Jan 2009 18:34

Thanks Lurban,

I never noticed the IS-3 "Panthers" and SU-100 "Jagdpanzers" in the background.

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by panzerhan » 02 Feb 2009 05:18

The Tiger tank in the movie "Downfall" looked just like the one above. I think it is from one of these because the movie was shot in Russia.

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by kradman » 06 Feb 2009 19:04

The kubelwagen and OT-810 used in the DownFall film were hired from collectors in Finland and alot of the film was filmed in St Petersburg

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Post by rommel_1942 » 18 Feb 2009 17:12

Endo wrote:I was always partial to the Tiger tanks in Kelly's hero's, not the real deal of course, but better than most. Especially battle of the bulge. I think they used the same one for saving private ryan. Looks like some sort of Russian under carriage with the bixy tiger hull and mocked up turret.

the kelly heroes was shot in Croatia with cooperatin from Jadran film - Zagreb studio who had at their disposal those Tiger tanks - also used in "Battle on the river Neretva" - among the whole lot of other thanks - t34's, american tanks...
anyway - they were the best looking tigers to be seen in war movies - i always thought that the upper hull was actually from tiger tank mounted onto t34 chasis - quite a good looking hybrid

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by rommel_1942 » 18 Feb 2009 17:14

kradman wrote:Does anyone know if the two 6 wheel Mercedes benz staff cars seen in the film Night of the Generals Film are original ?
or the one in which Dietrich von Choltitz (Gert Frobe) arrives at Rastenburg at the begining of IS Paris Burning?

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Russian fake Tigers

Post by Kessler » 09 Aug 2009 13:18

Please take a look at my ancient post:
"A Tiger mystery solved"

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=17466&p=153479

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by mikeshilton » 26 Sep 2009 21:25

A few years ago, a colleague at work asked me if I had seen the BBC news the night before, on enquiring why, he told me there had been a news report from Somalia reporting renewed fighting and that the film footage showed Tiger tanks in action, he was adamant the tanks were Tigers, unfortunately I was never able to find a copy of the footage.

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by dvdauger » 21 Feb 2010 18:45

There are only two Elephants in existance i doubt they'd get them both together for any movie - The one in view looks like the one currently restored and at the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland.But,it is not operational and for display only.I visited and have photos but not of very good quality - they did a good job of cosmetically restoring the vehicle but the round it took in the drivers side final drive housing may be beyond repair - Too bad.

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Re: Original German vehicles in Movies

Post by dvdauger » 21 Feb 2010 18:51

In the nineties during the turmoil in central Europe in a newsreel i swear for a split second i saw a production turreted King Tiger, Painted in an overall medium brown parked to the side of a road.It was a clear shot at fairly close distance - Why not? There were alot deployed in that area - Ammo would certainly be an issue -

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