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General Geng

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Post by AJK » 06 Jan 2003, 16:28

Does anyone have any information about and/or photos of General der Artillerie Gustav Geng, Chief of Section II of the post-WWI Austrian Ministry of Defense? Dates of birth, death, promotion, etc... would be much appreciated.

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Post by Glenn2438 » 08 Jan 2003, 23:48

AJ,

He was an artillery staff officer prior to the First World War. Just a few promotion dates at this time:

Leutnant: 1 Nov 1900 8. Feldkanonen-Regiment
Oberleutnant: 1 May 1908 8. Feldkanonen-Regiment
Hauptmann: 1 Nov 1912 Technical Military Committee Vienna
Major: 1 Aug 1917
Gen. d. Art.: 29 Mar 1930

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Post by AJK » 09 Jan 2003, 00:07

Thanks Glenn, I appreciate the info. Do any of your sources indicate a date of birth?

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Aug 2003, 14:19

Hi AJK!

Unfortunately I can´t offer a DoB/DoD.

Geng Ing. Gustav, Gen. d. Art.
-) Großes goldenes Ehrenzeichen für Verdienste um die Republik Österreich
-) Großes Ehrenzeichen für Verdienste um die Republik Österreich
-) Orden der Eisernen Krone 3. Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration und Schwertern
-) Militärverdienstkreuz 3. Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration und Schwertern
-) Silberne Militärverdienstmedaille am Bande des Militärverdienstkreuzes mit Schwertern
-) Bronzene Militärverdienstmedaille am Bande des Militärverdienstkreuzes
-) Karl-Truppenkreuz
-) Österreichische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille mit den Schwertern
-) Militärjubiläumskreuz
-) Italienischer Orden "Krone von Italien", Großkreuz
-) Ungarisches Verdienstkreuz II. Klasse mit Stern
-) Ungarische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille

Shawn was my teacher :wink:

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Post by AJK » 20 Aug 2003, 15:29

Hi Stauffenberg,

Thanks for the additional information.

Best wishes,

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 10 Aug 2007, 18:26

Hi AJ!

Some 4 years after posting your request I am glad to tell you that a reliable online source gives the following dates for Gen. d. Art. Ing. Gustav Geng:

* 21.02.1880, Wien
+ 11.03.1944, Wien

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Jürgen

Source - The Jansa Online Diary with link:
http://www.diemorgengab.at/fmljansa/aljamem08.htm
scida personae

nomen
GENG (GENGG)

nascenda
1880-02-21

praenomen
Gustav

Wien: (Vienna, Vienne), W ¤ ® © [Vindobona]

genus
m

morienda
1944-03-11

alias

Wien: (Vienna, Vienne), W ¤ ® © [Vindobona]

additio

miles (General d.Artillerie)

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Post by AJK » 10 Aug 2007, 19:07

Hi Jürgen,

Thank you so much for the information. In the big scheme of things, called history, 4 years is not that long!

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Post by VJK » 05 Mar 2017, 16:41

Hi!

10 years on and 14 years since the first post, here, finally, is a picture of the elusive Gustav Geng.

Source: http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno? ... nno-Search

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Post by AJK » 05 Mar 2017, 17:52

Patience is a virtue! Thank you for providing this photo.

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Post by Frech » 11 Mar 2017, 11:14

Geng Gustav Ing. (21.02.1880 – 11.03.1944)
KuK:
01.09.1899 Kadettoffiziersstellvertreter (DAR 8) [S00]
01.11.1900 Leutnant (DAR 8) [S04]
01.05.1908 Oberleutnant (FKR 8, II. Jhg Höherer Artilleriekurs, Wien) [S09]
01.11.1912 Hauptmann im Artilleriestab
23.03.1915 Militärverdienstkreuz 3. Kl. mit KD [PVBl. 45/1915]
01.08.1917 Major im Artilleriestab [1] [PVBl. 151/1917]
20.04.1918 Orden der Eisernen Krone 3. Kl. mit KD.X [PVBl. 74/1918]
ÖBH1:
01.09.1920 Oberstleutnant (BMfHW)
10.07.1923 Oberst (Titel) [VBl. 30/1923]
28.02.1928 Generalmajor (Vorst. Abt. 6/BMfHW) [Schem28]
01.02.1930 Leiter d. Sektion III im BMfHW [VBl. 1/1930]
17.03.1930 Großes Ehrenzeichen [VBl. 3/1930]
29.03.1930 General d. Artillerie (Ltr. S. II/BMfHW) [VBl. 5/1930]
09.05.1932 Tragegen. f.d. GrOffzK d. ung. VO [VBl. 5/1932]
21.03.1933 Großes Goldenes Ehrenzeichen [VBl. 4/1933]
30.04.1934 Ruhestand auf eigenes Ansuchen [VBl. 3/1934]

GrGE, GrE, EKO.3.X, MVK.3.X, SMVM.X (PVBl. 233/1916, X: PVBl. 198/1917), BMVM.X (PVBl. 45/1916), KTK, ÖKM.X, JK1908, GrK ital.Kr.O., GrOffzK ung. VO, ung. KM [Schem34]

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Post by AJK » 11 Mar 2017, 16:55

Thank you, Frech, for your information. It is interesting that General Geng jumped straight from Generalmajor to General der Artillerie, skipping the rank of Feldmarschalleutnant.

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Post by VJK » 11 Mar 2017, 19:12

Hi,
I would also like to add my thanks to Christian for his input.
The rank of Feldmarschalleutnant was re-introduced only around October 1933 (I would be very interested if someone could give a precise date), which is why Geng went from GM to GdA.

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Post by AJK » 11 Mar 2017, 19:28

Thank you, VJK, for the clarification - I had forgotten about the reintroduction of the FML rank...

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Post by Frech » 12 Mar 2017, 08:29

02.11.1934 Wiedereinführung des Titels Feldmarschallleutnant für Offiziere der DKl. I.
Dem dienstältesten Fmlt kann der Titel „General der ….“ verliehen werden. Ebenso dem Staatssekretär für Landesverteidigung. Früher ernannten „Generalen“ kann das Recht der Führung des Titels „Fmlt.“ durch den Bundesminister zuerkannt werden (Vbl. 26/1934).

27.06.1933 Generale i.R. tragen 2 Sterne auf dem Kragen (VBl. 12/1933)

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Post by VJK » 12 Mar 2017, 13:31

Many thanks Christian for the supplementary information. I have compiled below, a list of the Generale der Infanterie, Artillerie, as well as of those Generalmajore who were promoted to General, and those Generale who were subsequently promoted to Feldmarschalleutnant. Any additions/corrections would be most welcome.

General der...:

Theodor BRANTNER
General der Infanterie: 29 Jan 1934
General der Kavallerie: 2 Nov 1934

Ludwig Ritter von EIMANNSBERGER
General der Artillerie: 1 Jan 1930

Gustav GENG
General der Artillerie: 29 Mar 1930

Siegmund KNAUS
General der Infanterie: 1 Mar 1930

Eugen Ritter von LUSCHINSKY
General der Infanterie: 28 Jun 1934

Hugo METZGER
General der Infanterie: 26 Mar 1929

Artur SCHIEBEL
General der Infanterie: 26 Feb 1926

Sigismund SCHILHAWSKY, Edler von Banbrück
General der Infanterie: 21 Mar 1933

Carl VAUGOIN
General der Infanterie: 21 Sep 1933

Otto WIESINGER
General der Infanterie: 28 Feb 1931

Wilhelm ZEHNER
General der Infanterie: 1 Nov 1934


General:

Thomas BUZEK
General: 1 May 1925

Johann Wenzel Freiherr von HAAS von Hagenfels
Titular-General: 30 Apr 1925

Ing. Karl HEPPNER- KADLČIK
General: 1 May 1924

Georg HOHENBERGER
General: 1 Aug 1923

Edmund KASAMAS
General: May 1926

Gustav KÖNIG
Tit.-General: Sep 1924

Theodor KÖRNER, Edler von Siegringen
General: 18 Jan 1924

Emil RATZENHOFER
General: 1 Jan 1926

Viktor Anton SAGAI
General: 31 Jan 1924

Richard Josef SCHILHAWSKY, Ritter von Bahnbrück
General: 1 Mar 1926

Josef SCHNEIDER
General: 1 May 1924

Karl SCHNELLER
General: 1 May 1925

Oskar SUTTNER
General: 29 Dec 1926

Rudolf VIDOSSICH
General:

Hans WITTAS
General: Apr 1928


General/Feldmarschalleutnant:

Josef DOBRETZBERGER
General: 28 Apr 1925
Feldmarschalleutnant: 1 Dec 1934

Karl GLÖCKNER
General: 1 Aug 1923
Feldmarschalleutnant: 1 Dec 1934

Johann GRAF
Tit.-General: 31 Jan 1924
Feldmarschalleutnant:

Paul HOFMANN
Tit.-General: 31 Jul 1926
Feldmarschalleutnant:

Ottokar HUBERT
General: 1 Aug 1923
Feldmarschall-Leutnant mit Titel und Charakter: 1935

Ludwig HÜLGERTH
Tit.-General: 1 Jan 1928
Feldmarschalleutnant: 1934

Albert MOLL
General: Apr 1928
Feldmarschalleutnant:

Alfred REIF
Tit.-General: 31 Mar 1925
Feldmarschalleutnant:

Rudolf SCHNEIDER
Tit.-General: 11 May 1929
Feldmarschalleutnant: 1 Mar 1935


Kind regards,

VJK

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