Schematismus für das K.u.K.Heer für 1915

[Zoltan]

Does anyone have access to the Schematismus für das K.u.K.Heer for 1915,1916 or 1917 please? I found the one for 1914 online and it is searchable, although the data is essentially for 1913.

I know there is a 1917 edition as I saw it in Budapest in August this year.

I am looking for Ladányi Zoltán Lieutenant de Reserve.

Many thanks.
Ladányi Imre
Wellington
New Zealand

[AJK]

Hi Imre,

I checked the online Schematismus for 1917 and 1918 (http://www.militaria.hu/rang/cd/1917/ and http://www.militaria.hu/rang/cd/1918/) and unfortunately Ladányi Zoltán did not appear in either.

AJK

[Zoltan]

Thanks very much for the effort you went to. I appreciate it!

Looks to me that you checked a Honvedseg document?? I am looking for the k.u.k. equivalent. I saw a hard copy of the 1917 Schematismus für das K.u.K.Heer in Budapest earlier this year and am looking for a online version. Several versions (1914, 1913, 1912) are available online at the Austrian war archives.

Apparently the 1917 and 1918 editions are online at a Czech archive here: http://kramerius.nkp.cz/kramerius/PShow ... 28392&it=0

But you need DJVU software to view the pages and I can't get the DJVU plug-in to work with either Chrome or Safari browsers.

Many thanks for your reply.
Imre

[AJK]

Hi Imre,

Here is a link to an online version of the 1916 k.u.k. Schematismus: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... =1up;seq=5

I did a quick search and was unable to find any mention of Ladányi Zoltán, sorry.

AJK

[AJK]

As a follow up, I checked the online version of the 1917 Schematismus: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=549
Here I found two mentions of Ladányi Zoltán: his name among a list of Fähnriche (Ensigns) who were reserve officers in Infantry Regiment No. 67, and inclusion in a list of Reserve Lieutenants (date of promotion: 1 September 1915).

AJK

[Zoltan]

Many thanks AJK for your help. Yes, I managed to get access to those docs and see the entries for my father that you have cited.

Looks like no 1915 edition of this officers list was produced. With the help of other researchers I have been able to access editions for: 1912, 1913, 1914, 1916, 1917 and 1918.

Interestingly, the 1918 edition seems to largely record the same 'as at' dates as the 1917 edition. In other words, in the 1918 edition identical information is repeated from the 1917 edition. e.g. promotions as at dates in 1915 and 1916. Maybe there were no promotions in 1917?

[AJK]

There were undoubtedly promotions during 1917, so I am at a loss to explain why the 1918 edition is largely identical to the 1917 issue...

AJK

[Frech]

If you are willing to read through some 10.000 pages you will find alle promotions for 1917 (k.u.k. Heer, Kriegsmarine, k.k. Landwehr and k.u. Honved) here:

http://alex.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/alex? ... 17&size=45

Regards

Christian

[AJK]

Thank you, Christian. That is a great resource!

Best wishes,

AJK

[Zoltan]

If you are willing to read through some 10.000 pages you will find alle promotions for 1917 (k.u.k. Heer, Kriegsmarine, k.k. Landwehr and k.u. Honved) here:

http://alex.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/alex? ... 17&size=45

Regards

Christian

Thanks Christian. Yes it's a challenge to read the script! But it's almost the weekend for me.

[Frech]

I have read them from April 1914 until December 1918. It lasted half a year....

But it is the ultimate source for awards and promotions.

Regards

Christian

[Zoltan]

Actually ignore what I said in the above post - I misread how the lists work. The 1918 list DOES include promotions up to 1918. It's just that my father wasn't promoted further after 1915!

So the great news is that many scanned lists (but NOT 1915) are available in easily readable format from a couple of sights:
https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/ ... 4&layout=s
https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/ ... 3&layout=s
http://www.digitalniknihovna.cz/dsmo/vi ... 0d606f5dc6

Thanks for everyone's help.
Imre

[AJK]

Hi Imre,

Out of curiosity, I checked my 1944 listing of Hungarian officers - there is a Zoltán Ladányi included - born 22 September 1909, promoted to Captain in the infantry (Royal Hungarian Army) on 1 August 1943. I wonder if this might be your father? The Zoltán Ladányi that was a Lieutenant in 1917 would have been born in the early 1890s, and as such possibly too old to be your father (unless you are in your 80s)!

Regards,

AJK

[Zoltan]

Ha ha! My father Ladányi Zoltán was born in 1892 and emigrated to New Zealand in 1949. He was 65 when I was born in 1957.

So the WW2 guy is NOT my father and I am not in my eighties! Ha ha!!

[AJK]

Hi Imre,

I hope I didn't offend you - that was not my intention... In fact you are younger than me, I was born in 1955!

Best wishes,

AJK