details on officers in Palestine
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details on officers in Palestine
Mates,
Can you give any details on these AH officers who served in Palestine
Brantner Theodor
Glasner Johann
Moro Ing Friedrich
Cheers
S.B
Can you give any details on these AH officers who served in Palestine
Brantner Theodor
Glasner Johann
Moro Ing Friedrich
Cheers
S.B
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Re: details on officers in Palestine
Greg,
Thanks mate.
I was after where they gained there Ottoman awards?
Brantner and Glasner possibly in Galacia with the Ottoman 15th Corps
As to Moro I was thinking he went to Palestine with an Artillery unit as he was from the No 9 FAR possibly served with No 9th Bty Motor-Mörser-Batterie KUK Artillery, but that's a guess?
Or he could have also been attached to the 15th Corps in Galacia?
Cheers
S.B
Thanks mate.
I was after where they gained there Ottoman awards?
Brantner and Glasner possibly in Galacia with the Ottoman 15th Corps
As to Moro I was thinking he went to Palestine with an Artillery unit as he was from the No 9 FAR possibly served with No 9th Bty Motor-Mörser-Batterie KUK Artillery, but that's a guess?
Or he could have also been attached to the 15th Corps in Galacia?
Cheers
S.B
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Re: details on officers in Palestine
Glasner and Moro were officers at BMfHW (Bundesministerium für Heereswesen)
Brantner was officer at Heeresinspektorat.
Both never were in Turkey.
Brantner was officer at Heeresinspektorat.
Both never were in Turkey.
Re: details on officers in Palestine
Moro served as "Artillerie- und Generalstabsoffizier und Ingenieur" with the 4. turkish army command in Syria and Arabia.
"10.01.1916 – 20.03.1918 zugeteilt dem Kdt. der kais.ottom. 4 Armee und Marineminister Achmed Djemal Pascha in Syrien und Palästina. Zweite Suezkanalexpedition, erste und zweite Schlacht von Gazza (Infanteriestreifschuß)."
Source: his personal file.
Regards
Christian
"10.01.1916 – 20.03.1918 zugeteilt dem Kdt. der kais.ottom. 4 Armee und Marineminister Achmed Djemal Pascha in Syrien und Palästina. Zweite Suezkanalexpedition, erste und zweite Schlacht von Gazza (Infanteriestreifschuß)."
Source: his personal file.
Regards
Christian
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Re: details on officers in Palestine
Ah So! Danke Frech, Generaloberst Ali Fuad Erden gibt die Name als Moreau (Moro)
"Cemal Paşa’nın komuta ettiği 4’ncü Ordu Karargâhı’nın kurmayları ne Arap ne Alman’dı; bilakis, bütünüyle Türktü. Yalnız bir Avusturyalı istihkâm kurmay subayı Yüzbaşı Moreau vardı ki, Cemal Paşa’nın Avusturya seyahatinde Avusturya-Macaristan İmparatoru tarafından emir subayı olarak kendisine hediye edilmişti. Yüzbaşı Moreau, resmen ve görünürde Cemal Paşa’nın emir subayıydı; fakat gerçekte Avusturya-Macar Genel Karargâhı’nın 4. Osmanlı Ordusu nezdindek, haber subayı vazifesi görüyordu. Şifre kaleminde oturmaz; harekât şubesinde çalışırdı. Karargâhta çalışan birçok yabancı müşavirlerden birisi de Almanya Heidelberg Üniversitesi öğretim görevlilerinden 34 yaşında genç bir âlim olan Avusturyalı inşaat mühendisi Prof. Zalts’tı. "
Colonelgeneral Ali Fuad Erden the former COS of 4th Army wrote in his book " HQ of Cemal Pasha were all Turks not araps or germaNS. There was ONLY an Austrian Engeneer Captain called Moreau. He was attached his order by Kaiser Karl when he visited Austria"
I say there was no Moro. but now I say Moreau (Moro) thanks
"Cemal Paşa’nın komuta ettiği 4’ncü Ordu Karargâhı’nın kurmayları ne Arap ne Alman’dı; bilakis, bütünüyle Türktü. Yalnız bir Avusturyalı istihkâm kurmay subayı Yüzbaşı Moreau vardı ki, Cemal Paşa’nın Avusturya seyahatinde Avusturya-Macaristan İmparatoru tarafından emir subayı olarak kendisine hediye edilmişti. Yüzbaşı Moreau, resmen ve görünürde Cemal Paşa’nın emir subayıydı; fakat gerçekte Avusturya-Macar Genel Karargâhı’nın 4. Osmanlı Ordusu nezdindek, haber subayı vazifesi görüyordu. Şifre kaleminde oturmaz; harekât şubesinde çalışırdı. Karargâhta çalışan birçok yabancı müşavirlerden birisi de Almanya Heidelberg Üniversitesi öğretim görevlilerinden 34 yaşında genç bir âlim olan Avusturyalı inşaat mühendisi Prof. Zalts’tı. "
Colonelgeneral Ali Fuad Erden the former COS of 4th Army wrote in his book " HQ of Cemal Pasha were all Turks not araps or germaNS. There was ONLY an Austrian Engeneer Captain called Moreau. He was attached his order by Kaiser Karl when he visited Austria"
I say there was no Moro. but now I say Moreau (Moro) thanks