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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by Markgraf » 03 Oct 2023 09:16

AJK wrote:
02 Oct 2023 15:36
Markgraf wrote:
02 Oct 2023 14:10
AJK wrote:
02 Oct 2023 00:44

Ministerialrat Victor MIHÁLFFY von Mihálfy (? - ?)
Died 1930.11.27. Budapest at age 72.

Győző = Victor in Hungarian. The "Nagykosztolányi" is the part of his nobility title.

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I think that we are looking at two different officers. You refer to nagykosztolányi Mihálffy Győző (honvédelmi miniszteri tanácsos) 1854-1930. The officer for whom I am looking for birth and death dates is Ministerialrat Victor MIHÁLFFY von Mihálfy (in Hungarian: mihálfi Mihálffy Győző), who was promoted to Ministerialrat in 1900 and retired in 1906. Nagykosztolányi Mihálffy Győző was too young for both these promotion and retirement dates.

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The "miniszteri tanácsos" means Ministerialrat in Hungarian. He used the nobility title "mihálfi" just until 1908. In that year the King confirmed his old Hungarian nobility, and donated the new title "nagykoszolányi" to him.

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His funeral notice. Mentioned him as retired miniszteri tanácsos (Ministerialrat) of the Honvédelmi Minisztérium (contemporary DoD). And, as I mentioned above, Victor=Győző. In this period, they used always the Hungarian name forms (they even "translated" the first names of the foreginers e.g. the french wirter Jules Verne was Verne Gyula in Hungary.)

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by Markgraf » 03 Oct 2023 12:54

The other thing, that he was 77 years old, not 72 - the first obituary is wrong.

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by AJK » 04 Oct 2023 01:26

Thank you, Markgraf, for your comments. I am surprised that Mihálffy was promoted to Ministerialrat (miniszteri tanácsos) at the age of 46, and retired at the age of 52, both very much below the normal age ranges for promotions to general rank and for retirement, however, the 13 October 1908 announcement of his receipt of the nobility title of "Nagykosztolányi" states that on that date in 1908 he was already a retired Ministerialrat (nyugalmazott miniszteri tanacsosnak), so that would serve as support for the argument that in fact we are looking at only one office.

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by Markgraf » 04 Oct 2023 14:53

AJK wrote:
04 Oct 2023 01:26
Thank you, Markgraf, for your comments. I am surprised that Mihálffy was promoted to Ministerialrat (miniszteri tanácsos) at the age of 46, and retired at the age of 52, both very much below the normal age ranges for promotions to general rank and for retirement, however, the 13 October 1908 announcement of his receipt of the nobility title of "Nagykosztolányi" states that on that date in 1908 he was already a retired Ministerialrat (nyugalmazott miniszteri tanacsosnak), so that would serve as support for the argument that in fact we are looking at only one office.

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I totally agree, but he was not a "real" General, just a military official. Moreover he transferred from the Ministry of Finance in 1888. Then he was in pay grade VII. - so he started his "military" career as an Lt. Col. equivalent.

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by JakeV » 14 Oct 2023 17:07

I haven't had much time during the last weeks, but I'll slowly get back to it when circumstances permit.

Also, Josef Schmidbacher (Ungarisch-Weißkirchen, 29.11.1862 - 1946, Lager Rudolfsgnad/Banat)

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by AJK » 16 Oct 2023 23:25

JakeV wrote:
14 Oct 2023 17:07
I haven't had much time during the last weeks, but I'll slowly get back to it when circumstances permit.

Also, Josef Schmidbacher (Ungarisch-Weißkirchen, 29.11.1862 - 1946, Lager Rudolfsgnad/Banat)
Thank you, Jake, I know all too well what it means to have to set priorities in life... Thank for the information about Generalmajor Schmidbacher.

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by IanE » 29 Oct 2023 21:18

Whilst searching the other day I came across the following:
Ministerialrat Ferdinand Kummer-Fustinioni Belluo/Italy, 14.12.1851 -
Ministerialrat Victor (Győző) Mihálffy von Mihálfy 1853 – 27.11.1930, Budapest/Hungary

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by AJK » 29 Oct 2023 22:51

IanE wrote:
29 Oct 2023 21:18
Whilst searching the other day I came across the following:
Ministerialrat Ferdinand Kummer-Fustinioni Belluo/Italy, 14.12.1851 -
Ministerialrat Victor (Győző) Mihálffy von Mihálfy 1853 – 27.11.1930, Budapest/Hungary

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Ian
Thank you, Ian.

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by JakeV » 05 Nov 2023 16:16

Generalauditor Dr. Josef GOTTLIEB (1836 - 1910)
Generalauditor Demetrius SAWCZYN (1857 - 1925)
Generalauditor Anton ŠIMEK (1854 - 1928)

Generalintendant Josef BREIT (1851 - 1910)
Generalintendant Julius KEITER (1842 - 1912)
Generalintendant Anton Ritter von KONECZNY (1852 - 1926)
Generalintendant Ernst KRAUS (1846 - 1925)
Generalintendant Heinrich KUHN (1846 - 1919)
Generalintendant Anton KUMMER (1849 - 1910)
Generalintendant Maximilian MARQUETTE (1847 - 1911)
Generalintendant Alois MENSCHIK (1838 - 1908)
Generalintendant Karl OBERDORFER (1843 - 1920)
Generalintendant Josef PROTIWENSKY (1844 - 1914)
Generalintendant Franz SCHMER (1852 - 1919)
Generalintendant Emanuel VALDUGA (1853 - 1902)
Generalintendant Arnold Ritter von VAN DER VENNE (1852 - 1937)
Generalintendant Daniel WAGNER (1852 - 1922)
Generalintendant Rudolf WALLNER (Brünn/Mähren, 13.01.1840 - 11.09.1911, Gyűgy/Ungarn)
Generalintendant Agathon WOLLENIK (1829 - 1909)
Generalintendant Adolf ZARIBNITZKY (1842 - 1914)

Dr. Friedrich JAKOBY (1841 - 1907) (however was an Oberstabsarzt)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Ignaz KAISER (1835 - 26.10.1914, Bayerisch Gmain)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Heinrich Wierusz-KOWALSKI (1846 - 1929)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Alexander KROPSCH (1848 - 1936)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Ferdinand LAUFBERGER (1835 - 1911)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Georg LUDWIG (1842 - 1903)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Johann MATKOVIĆ (1838 - 1920)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Wilhelm Edler von MOSING (1852 - 1920)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Johann MÜLLER (1840- 1905)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Julius NETOLITZKY (1841 - 1912)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Bohuslav NIESSNER (1844 - 1911)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Johann PLAHL (1846 - 1922)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Eduard PORIAS (1837 - 1908)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Martin ROSNER (1838 - 1910)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Ludwig ROTTER (1841 - 1921)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Stephan RUČEVIĆ (1841 - 1919)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Albert von SÓLTZ (1841 - 1910)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Ferdinand SONNEWEND (1843 - 1912)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Anton STENZL (1841 - 1910)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Georg WEEBER (1849 - 1924)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Franz WEESE (1835 - 1925)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Johann WENZL (1848 - 1912)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Ladislaus Ritter ZGÓRSKI von Kotwicz (1844 - 1908)
Generalstabsarzt Dr. Jakob ZUCKERMANN (1846 - 1914)

Hofrat Prof. Georg KAISER (1842 - 1914)
Hofrat Dr. Heinrich Ritter von RICHTER (1841 - 1923)
Hofrat Johann WELZER (1830 - 1905)
Hofrat Heinrich WIEDL (1846 - 1928)

Ministerialrat Franz DIENZL (1841 - 1916)
Ministerialrat Josef KELLER (Theresienstadt/Böhmen, 22.10.1853 - 05.04.1935, Litoměřice/ČSR)
Ministerialrat Karl KITZLER (1844 - 1911)
Ministerialrat Josef KOLLROSS (1830 - 1908)
Ministerialrat Ferdinand KUMMER-FUSTINIONI (1851 - 1919)
Ministerialrat Franz KUMSTAT (1840 - 1908)
Ministerialrat Carl Ritter von LAMBORT (1844 - 1911)
Ministerialrat Eduard LANG (1828 - 1913)
Ministerialrat Josef LEGAT (1838 - 1908)
Ministerialrat Josef MARESCH (1840 - 1915)
Ministerialrat Vinzenz MAYER (1824 - 1910)
Ministerialrat Johann NIERL (1844 - 1920)
Ministerialrat Josef PICHA (1853 - 1929)
Ministerialrat Franz REIF (1845 - 1916)
Ministerialrat Johann SCHWARZ (1856 - 1928)
Ministerialrat Heinrich SEIBERLIK (1852 - 1937)
Ministerialrat Ferdinand SKALA (Brünn/Mähren, 25.04.1844 - 12.05.1904, Karlsbad/Böhmen)
Ministerialrat Isidor TKACZKIEWICZ (1850 - 1914)
Ministerialrat Adalbert WELSER (1846 - 1918)
Ministerialrat Julius WIRL (1857 - 1938)
Ministerialrat Karl WOREL (1844 - 1917)
Ministerialrat Friedrich WRKAL (1836 - 1919)
Ministerialrat Karl ZENKER (1840 - 1907)

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by AJK » 06 Nov 2023 02:12

Thank you so much, Jake, for your hard work in putting this long list together! I have just about completed my project, and have a final list of 12 names for which I require dates, after which I am done:

Generalauditor Georg FOLBERGER (? - ?)
Generalauditor Hugo MATZAK von Ottenburg (? - ?)
Generalauditor Karl WENCELIDES (? - ?)

Generalintendant Wilhelm DEJONGE (? - ?)
Generalintendant Felix FLOTH (? - ?)
Generalintendant Josef PLEWA (? - ?)
Generalintendant Friedrich UNGAR (? - ?)
Generalintendant Konrad WRETSCHER (? - 1926)

Generalstabsarzt Dr. Johann STURSA (? - ?)

Ministerialrat Simon CSOBOTH von Altorja (? - ?)
Ministerialrat Emil MARSCHALL (? - ?)
Ministerialrat Hieronymus SÁNTHA (? - ?)

Thank you very much in advance!

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AJK

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by JakeV » 06 Nov 2023 18:27

Generalauditor Georg FOLBERGER (1849 - 1905)
Generalauditor Hugo MATZAK von Ottenburg (1820 - 1884)
Generalauditor Karl WENCELIDES (Wischau/Mähren, 18.08.1862 - 27.12.1924, Frývaldov/ČSR)

Generalintendant Wilhelm DEJONGE (1862 - 1938)
Generalintendant Felix FLOTH (Rakovica/Kroatien, 18.10.1861 - ?)
Generalintendant Josef PLEWA (Wien, 26.01.1862 - ?)
Generalintendant Friedrich UNGAR (Hermannstadt/Siebenbürgen, 27.09.1857 - 01.09.1936)
Generalintendant Konrad WRETSCHER (1856 - 1926)

Generalstabsarzt Dr. Johann STURSA (Groß-Sedlist/Böhmen, 28.05.1861 - 18.05.1920, Praha)

Ministerialrat Simon CSOBOTH von Altorja (1857 - 1942)
Ministerialrat Emil MARSCHALL (1858 - 1931)
Ministerialrat Hieronymus SÁNTHA (1851 - 1928)

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by AJK » 06 Nov 2023 19:46

Thank you, Jake, for your quick response! I am very grateful for all the help that you have provided, for your patience and understanding.

Best wishes,

AJK

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by Tiglatpalassar » 08 Nov 2023 08:47

Dear Jake, I have two questions left.

1) Specify the exact dates and places of birth and death, if possible.

Bosits, Johann von (27.7.1841 - 27.2.1921)
Czibur, Ladislaus (1851 - 15.9.1930)
Exner, Alexander Ferdinand Franz Seraph Maria (22.3.1868 - 8.10.1920)
Guha, Joseph (13.2.1863 - 1942)
Magrinelli, Alois (7.1.1847 - 13.6.1936), 1.5.1899 (13.5.99)
Máriássy de Markus- et Batizfalva, Attila (19.1.1849 - 24.7.1928)
Mayer Edler von Starkenthurm, Arthur (1851 - 2.6.1938)
Potuczek, Franz (3.3.1855 - 15.11.1923)
Schmidt, Bruno von (1846 - 1919)
Simonovi - 17.7.1946)ć, Julius (1859 - 28.5.1941)
Sztrókay, Ludwig (8.4.1860 - 21.8.1940)
Wojnárovits, Alexander von (1837-1915)
Zagar, Dominik (1855 - 6.2.1936)

2) Specify dates of birth, as well as places of birth and death, if possible.

Eberhardt, Otto Ritter von († 27.3.1876)
Gombosz von Hatháza, Ladislaus († 25.9.1887)
Hofbauer von Bauernfeld, Wilhelm († 11.12.1873)
Kille, Franz Edler von († 30.1.1867)
Knezević, David († 18.2.1918)
Kukuljević von Sacci, Alexis († 5.1.1871)
Kutassy, Ignaz († 6.6.1884)
Languider, Joseph († 14.11.1867)
Lengyel, Johann († 11.2.1914)
Mangesius, Friedrich († 27.11.1908)
Manglberger, Jakob († 17.5.1882)
Mankosch, Basil († 16.7.1875)
Mauroy de Merville († 13.3.1886)
Möraus, Karl († 29.9.1872)
Navarra, Anton († 1.2.1873)
Nostitz-Drzewiecki, Johann Karl von († 19.4.1871)
Oberkamp, Julius († 2.7.1899)
Orgonás von Szentbenedek, Siegmund († 20.2.1907)
Pichler, Alois († 30.8.1886)
Pirner, Karl († 29.11.1881)
Plattner, Franz Ritter von († 10.4.1875)
Podhagski Edler von Kaschauberg, Joseph († 15.8.1867)
Rucker, Joseph († 19.10.1871)
Rukavina von Vidovgrad, Hieronymus († 18.12.1880)
Sametz, Adalbert († 12.7.1887)
Schatz, Ludwig († 10.8.1891)
Schiller Edler von Harka, Ludwig († 28.3.1876)
Schlitter von Niedernberg, Johann († 3.8.1886)
Schutte Edler von Sparrenschild, Karl († 31.12.1921)
Schwabe (Edler ?) von Kremshausen, Emil († 22.5.1906)
Severus Edler von Laubenfeld, Rudolf († 15.5.1889)
Souvent, Wilhelm Wolfgang Edler von († 21.10.1867)
Stesser von Rajna und Körös-Ladány, Georg († 17.5.1904)
Swiatkiewicz, Felix von († 18.11.1869)
Theissing, Bernhard († 1.7.1868)
Tomerlin, Martin († 6.1.1907)
Török von Mura und Köröstarcsa, Franz († 1903)
Torri, Thomas von († 18.2.1878)
Tóth, Alexander von († 4.10.1878)
Vendrei, Franz († 2.7.1893)
Vogel, Karl († 25.7.1874)
Vopaterny, Joseph von († 26.5.1889)
Walleregno, Ludwig († 21.7.1886)
Weikard, Franz († 2.8.1894)


Thank you.

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by AJK » 09 Nov 2023 02:02

IanE wrote:
29 Oct 2023 21:18
Whilst searching the other day I came across the following:
Ministerialrat Ferdinand Kummer-Fustinioni Belluo/Italy, 14.12.1851 -
Ministerialrat Victor (Győző) Mihálffy von Mihálfy 1853 – 27.11.1930, Budapest/Hungary

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Ian
Hi Ian,

Please could you PM me - I tried to send you a PM but it does not seem to have gone through...

Thanks, and best wishes,

AJK

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Re: Birth/death dates for k.u.k. Generals

Post by IanE » 09 Nov 2023 10:15

Hi Andris,

I have PM'ed you and I hope it answers your question. I was tardy in logging on that is probably why I missed your original msg.

Regards,
Ian

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