British monarchs/ nobility as Austro-Hungarian Inhabers

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British monarchs/ nobility as Austro-Hungarian Inhabers

Post by CMF » 28 Mar 2004 21:38

Has anyone any photographs or portraits (in AH uniform) of those members of the British Royal Family/ Nobility who held Colonel-Proprietorships of Austro-Hungarian units up to 1914?

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Post by Orok » 28 Mar 2004 22:08

Hi Chris,

Interesting topic! :lol:

Another related topic would be British/Irish emigres who served in the Austrian Army, personalities such as Browne, Lacy, Loudon, etc. !

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Duke of Connaught

Post by Glenn2438 » 29 Mar 2004 09:14

Hi Chris,

for starters: Arthur Duke of Connaught and Strathearn. Inhaber of k.u.k. Husaren-Regiment Nr. 4 from 1893 to November 1918. Interestingly enough the "enemy" Regimental Proprietors were not stripped of their colonelcy's during the war!

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 29 Mar 2004 10:30

Fine pic Glenn!

Another british guy of interest might be Irish O´Donell.

See:
http://www.bmlv.gv.at/karriere/offizier ... 2005.shtml
http://www.bmlv.gv.at/karriere/offizier ... gang.shtml

The officers group 2005 (which will leave the academy in 2005) is named "O´Donell" and wears "his" shield.

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George

Post by Glenn2438 » 29 Mar 2004 10:37

Good morning Stauffenberg :D

Here is King Edward VII as the Inhaber of k.u.k. Husaren-Regiment Nr. 12. He held the appointment from 1888 - 1910.

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George

Post by Glenn2438 » 29 Mar 2004 10:42

And King George V. Inhaber of Korpsartillerie-Regiment Nr. 12, renamed as Feldhaubitz-Regiment Nr. 12 in 1908. Held the appointment from March 1903, initially as Prince of Wales until December 1915 when he relinquished it.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 29 Mar 2004 10:45

Good morning Glenn! :D

Ooohh ... those pretty uniforms!!! Unfortunately nothing left in today´s Austrian Army. No traditions, no uniforms. Also the Guards Batallion looks like Gypsies troops.

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Post by CMF » 29 Mar 2004 11:36

Cheers all!

Wow 8O !! Many thanks Glenn for the outstanding photographs. This subject suddenly took my fancy. :idea:

Perhaps the fact that the Donaumonarchie did not act in a petty manner and strip the dignities accorded to foreign Heads of State, or 'brother monarchs', is testament to the character and adherence to tradition/protocol of this Imperial State. In retrospect the actions of the Saxe-Coburgs in the UK, in taking the conflict to a hitherto unknown personal level by the petty stripping of foreign monarchs and even family members of titles and dignities, was a mean little act based on political pressure. And if it was said that thousands of men were dying against the forces of these individuals so honoured, then it was the grubby politicians in the UK and elsewhere who had consigned their citizens to this fate. :x

Well, I feel better now :| . Perhaps an Inhaber section is an idea for Glenn's website :wink:

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Chris
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Post by hauptmannn » 29 Mar 2004 11:37

I like the austrian uniforms except for the hats :( those look a little out of line for me :)

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Foreign Colonels

Post by Glenn2438 » 29 Mar 2004 19:10

Hi Chris,

you make a very valid point about the petty behaviour regarding the stripping of titles and honours from foreign monarchs and other noble colonels etc in WW1.

It is interesting to record that on the 8th of August 1866 even before the definitive peace treaty of Prague was signed ending the Austro-Prussian War, Prussian Generalfeldmarschall Friedrich Graf Wrangel, the Regimental Proprietor of the k.k. 2. Cürassier-Regiment sent a letter to his regiment enclosing 100 Prussian Thalers. He commiserated with regards to the losses suffered by "his" regiment and expressed his relief that the war was over and that the money should go to alleviate the suffering of his wounded troopers.

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Post by CMF » 30 Mar 2004 14:11

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for the message of support for my rant :lol: . It might have been a nice, though far fetched :lol: , gesture, if Archduke Otto had been invited to be the new Colonel-in-Chief of the QDG in memory of Franz Joseph's tenure as Colonel in Chief of the KDG, and in recognition of the continued use of the Doppeladler!!!

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