Italian Regiments

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Italian Regiments

Post by Peter Lyderik » 25 May 2005 12:00

If it is not too much to ask for, I would like to know more about Italian regiments in the A-H Army. Just got my hands on Geschichte der K. und K. Wehrmact, and looking in part 2 found out about Italian Line-Infantry-regiment Nr. 48, which existed 1721-1795. But there were others, or what?

Looking forward hearing from all.

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Italian Regiments

Post by Glenn2438 » 25 May 2005 19:12

Peter,

numerous regiments were recruited from the Italian provinces of Lombardy and Venezia prior to the loss of these areas in 1859 and 1866 respectively. After that time the regiments were assigned recruiting districts in other parts of the empire, usually Hungary or Galicia. In 1848 for example the following regiments were primarily "Italian":

13. Venezianisches Infanterie-Regiment
16. Venezianisches Infanterie-Regiment
23. Lombardisches Infanterie-Regiment
26. Venezianisches Infanterie-Regiment
38. Lombardisches Infanterie-Regiment
43. Lombardisches Infanterie-Regiment
44. Lombardisches Infanterie-Regiment
45. Venezianisches Infanterie-Regiment

8. Lombardisch-Venezianisches Jäger-Bataillon
11. Lombardisch-Venezianisches Jäger-Bataillon

In late 1859 the situation was as follows:

13. Infanterie-Regiment
16. Infanterie-Regiment
26.Infanterie-Regiment
45. Infanterie-Regiment

Of course the Tiroler-Kaiserjäger-Regiment always had a large proportion of Italian speaking soldiers as did Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 22 recruited from Trieste until the end of the Monarchy.

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Post by Peter Lyderik » 26 May 2005 11:40

Glenn,

Thanks for the reply. You don't know about Italian recruited regiments from the 18th century, besides the one I mentioned? And no cavalry regiments made up of Italians at all?

Greetings Peter

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Post by manuel » 27 May 2005 20:39

during WWI the italian speaking people from Kustenland mainly served in IR 97, FJB 20 and LIR 27. Other men from Kustenland served in all rgts from III Korp (IR 17, 27, 47, 87 - LIR 5 ......)

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Post by Peter Lyderik » 30 May 2005 16:03

So how did the the Italian soldiers of the A-H army do during WW 1? Did they fight on the Italian front, or somewhere else?

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Post by manuel » 30 May 2005 16:51

Peter Lyderik wrote:So how did the the Italian soldiers of the A-H army do during WW 1? Did they fight on the Italian front, or somewhere else?
They started fighting on eastern front. When Italy entered the war, the Kaiserjaeger (50% formed by italian men from Trentino) have been moved on South West Front on Tirolo's mountains.

The other regiments formed by italians remained on eastern front or, more precisely, the "politically suspect" baons (formed by italians) remained at Eastern Front and the rest of the regiments took the road to Italian Front, if necessary.

This was not the rule for all war-time. Many italians from Kustenland fought against italian army and many of them died. A few months ago I was walking in AH war cemetry in Redipuglia (Carso, near Gorizia and Monfalcone) and I saw a lot of grave stones with typical italian names.

In my family, two great grandfathers fought on eastern front (Galizia, Poland, Romania) and one on Carso, few chilometers from his home town. All of them came from Kustenland.

The fourth one was instead in Italian Army.

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Post by Peter Lyderik » 30 May 2005 18:52

Thanks for the info, Manuel, interesting stuff.

Greetings Peter

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