German trench art - but on what?

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German trench art - but on what?

Post by ghasp! » 05 Jun 2019 09:15

I've just inherited this from a relative. It looks to be a piece of WWI German trench art, but on a very odd object. It seems to be an aluminium dart. It's incredibly well made so probably engineered rather than put together out of scrap. At one point I thought there was a ball at the end and it might have been some pen or marker, but the end comes out and it attached to a thin piece of wood.

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Post by ghasp! » 05 Jun 2019 09:16

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by Hohlladung » 05 Jun 2019 14:14

Hi ghasp!

Just a wild guess, but this could be a former aviator arrow, they dropped from airplaines.

The top removed and modified into a pencil holder? Anyone else?

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 05 Jun 2019 15:58

A question or two...
Was it known as a “Weltkrieg” during WWI,
or is this a postwar item?
Is there a “V” before the “ogesen”? If so, you have a good lead to the “where/what battles” it refers to.

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by Terry Duncan » 05 Jun 2019 16:03

I would look at something like 'Lawn Darts' if the item was made by a POW as that could account for the wooden spike part? I would say it is decorated too well for the aviation arrow but obviously, that is a guess based on the workmanship that would be a bit pointless on a literal throwaway object.

Weltkrieg was a term used in WWI, although not universally much like on the allied side.

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 05 Jun 2019 16:36

Someone clearly knew the war lasted from 1914/18, so again my guess is most likely postwar. Looks too nice to be a “flechette” and think aluminium would be too light a material for this purpose. Terry’s POW theory sounds good to me.

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by ghasp! » 05 Jun 2019 17:50

Just to clear up the question over the name - it's Yogesen - which I assume it the name of the person who carved the artwork onto it.

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by Terry Duncan » 05 Jun 2019 20:53

This is the only thing I can find on the name Yogesen or Yogasan, but quite what else there is I cannot say, being a bit out of touch with search engines etc I do not always find everything;

https://www.cardcow.com/565830/krigsbil ... world-war/

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 06 Jun 2019 05:25

Thanks Terry. Found that and a few others too and still think it’s a fancy “V” and not a “Y”.

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Re: German trench art - but on what?

Post by Terry Duncan » 06 Jun 2019 10:00

Yes, I agree. I had been looking to see if any alternative with the Y existed but forgot to put that part! My other thought was that the date might be 1914/8 rather than 1914 18, which might date the item to a particular place for sure.

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