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Argonne, War zone 1914-18.

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Post by tigre » 05 Jun 2020, 01:38

Hello to all :D; something about this...................................................

Artillery combat in woods.

On the morning of 15 September 1914, the 11th Infantry Division was employed to reinforce the left wing of the XVIII Reserve Corps. The latter was barely holding at Binarville. The situation on the left wing of the 21st Infantry Brigade to which the 6th Field Artillery was attached, was as follows:

The enemy had advanced to the hill 1 km south of the village of Binarville; The woods 1500 m southwest of this place is occupied by them. East of the road leading south from Binarville the enemy occupies the north edge of the Bois de la Grurie. How far the enemy position extends into the woods and how strongly it is occupied is as yet unknown.

No enemy has been seen in the woods lying southeast and east of Binarville. Enemy artillery keeps up a lively fire on the viIIage and the grounds north of it. It is well concealed in ravines and woods. There are no airplane or balloons for reconnaissance and observation of enemy artillery positions. The area for development of the brigade which advances to the attack on both sides of BinarvilIe is hedged in on the left by a great forest.

This forest encircIes the village on the south, east and north at a distance of less than 1200 meters. The terrain is especially unfavorable for artillery. Due to woods and terrain features, observation is so poor west of the village, except for a narrow corridor just west of the road, that effective support of the infantry is impossible. East of the village the view of the combat area is cut off by the woods 1 km south.

Observation is somewhat better from that point over the ground west of the road and southwest of Servon, but the extensive orchards interrupt the view to the south and east of the village. The close proximity of the woods is a disquieting factor for it prevents knowledge of the enemy.

The infantry is unable to advance and suffers considerable casualties. Artillery support becomes imperative. The artillery regiment has no choice, it must do what it can with the difficulties of terrain.

Source: "Artillerie im Waldgefecht" (From the war history 0the 6th Field Artillery.). Military Review. June 1933.

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Does the article supply an answer?

It is hard to use artillery effectively in woods - unless you employ so much that the wood ceases to exist. 8O
Fighting in woods is generally determined by the quality of infantry.


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Post by tigre » 06 Jun 2020, 01:09

Hello Sheldrake :D; I'm reading but I think that unit found a particular (tactical) situation and the article shows how it was solve at that time with the assets on hand. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by jluetjen » 10 Jun 2020, 13:23

Here's how the area is laid out today...
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Here's a view from the road south of Binarville looking Northwest towards where the French artillery are shown on the map...
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Here's a view looking south towars the French artillery position, from just south of where the secondary road breaks to the west.
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The town itself is in a valley, surrounded by intermittent copses of trees, and visibility is generally limited. Here's a view on the main road, just north of Binarville, looking south towards the town.
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Incidentally, Binarville would also be the location of the "Lost Battalian" in 1918.

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Hello to all :D; thanks jluetjen, good complements :wink:. More......................

Artillery combat in woods.

Initially two batteries are placed in position. The 2d Battery takes position on the hill northwest of Binarville with its right flank supported by the small rectangular woods. It is concealed behind the crest and fronts towards the southwest. The 4th Battery takes position in a small ravine north of Rome-Fe, fronting towards the south. Both batteries concentrate on the most dangerous target, the enemy infantry. It is forced to withdraw; our infantry pursues and occupies the broad ridge south of the village. Soon the woods on the west edge of the hill is evacuated by the enemy. The division orders an attack on the village of Servon. The 6th FIeld Artillery is to support this attack. Therefore all batteries are put into position.

To protect the left flank of the batteries of the 1st Battalion from attack from the woods hard by, a company of 38th Infantry is assigned. Our assault on Servon is unsuccessful because we failed to silence the enemy batteries. They fire from the flank on our assault echelons and force them to withdraw.

Nor does any advance occur east of the road opposite the north edge of the Bois de la Grurie. The batteries of the 1st Battalion, freed by the failure of the assault on Servon, turn their fire on the edge of the woods just east of the road. In order better to observe the movements of our infantry and better to support the attack, the 1st and 3d Batteries are pushed forward to concealed positions in a shallow ravine on the west slope of Hill 212. They front southwest opposite the north edge of the Bois de la Grurie. In order to fire over intervening heights the batteries have to go quite a way up the hill-nearly up to the woods. The left flank of the 1st Battery is only 250 m distant from the woods. The company again takes over the flank protection.

The effective fire of the two batteries forced the enemy to withdraw into the woods. It is noteworthy that they escaped enemy artillery fire although the adjacent village was fired on. Evidently the enemy has as much trouble with the unfavorable observation situation as we have.

Yet the enemy has a great advantage in the great forest which encircles our left wing and stretches far into the Idistance. Under its cover he can advance and withdraw his troops without our knowledge. For this reason he put tip a stiff resistance on the edge of the woods so that we m:ight get no glimpse into them. There could hardly be a better chance to envelop the opponent than is afforded the French here.

Toward evening the enemy does in fact commence an enveloping attack with two regiments of Alpine Jagers. About 5 o'clock lively firing occurs on the left flank of the 1st Battery from the nearby edge of the woods. The company of 38th Infantry replies at once and, the left platoon of the battery hurriedly changes front towards its left. But the enemy does not emerge from the woods and firing ceases. Inasmuch as the situation seems critical the other two platoons change front as well, towards the edge of the woods 250 m distant. To provide for any emergency the limbers are brought up to 100 m behind the battery.

Source: "Artillerie im Waldgefecht" (From the war history of the 6th Field Artillery.). Military Review. June 1933.

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Post by jluetjen » 12 Jun 2020, 00:03

2d Battery takes position on the hill northwest of Binarville with its right flank supported by the small rectangular woods.
This is a view towards the hill, which would be where the trees are towards the horizon.
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...here's a slightly closer view.
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...the 1st and 3d Batteries are pushed forward to concealed positions in a shallow ravine on the west slope of Hill 212.
Here's a view looking towards hill 212...
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Post by Ken S. » 12 Jun 2020, 01:42

Here is the account in German of the day's fighting from the history of Grenadier-Regiment Nr. 10. Unfortunately when they digitized the book they didn't make an effort to scan the maps properly.
15. September. Für das VI. A.K. ist ein Ruhetag vorgesehen. Es soll dann zur 3. Armee in die Gegend von Reims abrücken. Der Gegner faßt aber das XVIll R.K. derart scharf an, daß die 22. Inf.Brig mit dem F.A.R. 42 auf dem rechten Flügel, die sonstige gesamte 11. Inf.Div. auf dem linken Flügel dieses Korps in den Kampf geworfen werden muß, und durch dieses Einsetzen die Verfolgung zum Stehen gebracht wird.

7.15 vorm. erhält Rgt. den Befehl, nach Autry zu rücken. Hier langer Halt. Der Kanonendonner in südlicher Richtung verstärkt sich immer mehr. 10.00 vorm. Weitermarsch auf Binarville. 10.15 vorm. wird der Angriffsbefehl am Ostrande des Waldes 1¼ Klm. nordwestl. Binarville ausgegeben (s. Skizze 3).

Das Rgt. hat den zwischen Servon und der Straße Binarville—Vienne le Château befindlichen Gegner anzugreifen F./10 wird gemeinsam mit der 1./Pi.6 Div.-Res.

II./10 rechts, geht mit rechtem Flügel über Punkt 179 südwestlich Binarville auf St. Thomas vor, I./10 links, im Anschluß an das an der Straße vorgehende Füs.Rgt. 38, M.G.K. als Res. hinter der Mitte.

II./10 gliedert sich mit 5./10 und 7./10 in erster Linie, 6./10 hinter 5./10, 8./10 rechts heraus gestaffelt in zweiter Linie. I./10 nimmt 1., 3., 4. Komp. in erste Linie, während 2./10 als Res. hinter der Mitte folgt.

Das Vorgehen bis zu dem Höhenzuge nördlich der Straße Binarville—Servon erfolgt ohne feindl. Gegenwirkung. Hier schlagen die ersten Schrappnells ein. Die einzelnen Komp. stürzen sich in den Grund hart südlich der Straße und ordnen sich hier. Das Vorgehen geht weiter. Die allgemeine Linie: Südrand des Waldes südwestlich des Punktes 179—Nordrand Bois de la Grurie wird erreicht. Hier schon tritt eine Vermischung der Verbände mit Teilen der 25. Res.Div. ein, insbesondere mit dem Inf.Rgt. 116. Schweres feindl. Feuer zwingt 4.00 nachm. zum Halten. Es treten erhebliche Verluste ein, I./10 erhält außerdem flankierendes Inf.-Feuer aus dem Bois de la Grurie und muß seine Front immer mehr nach Südosten und Osten umbiegen. 1./10 ohne einen Zug (Lt. Hochbaum), der bereits in vorderster Linie kämpft, wird Artl.-Bedeckung östlich Punkt 179.

Der Feind hat sich mit starken Kräften in die Argonnen geworfen und bedrängt von dort das Füs·Rgt. 38, das in den dichten Wald nicht eindringen kann. Seine Artl. steht mit Teilen östlich und südöstlich Servon bei Punkt 166 und Punkt 188 nördlich Bienne le Château; weitere Inf. liegt am nördlichen Hange des Ruisseau de la Noue Dieusson und an der Straße Servan—Pavillon. Überwältigende Artl. gestattet kein weiteres Vorgehen. Lt. Schaefer, 5./10, mit einigen Mann dringt allein bis über den Ruisseau de la Vallée Moreau vor.

I./10 und II./10 sowie die M.G.K. bleiben in den erreichten Stellungen und graben sich ein. Da II./10 und Inf.Rgt. 116 in vorderster Linie genügen, werden gegen Abend die erreichbaren Teile des I./10 zurückgezogen und als Res. des Rgts. in dem Grunde östlich la Mare aux Boeufs bereitgestellt.

F./10 mit 1./Pi. 6, zunächst Div.Res. bei la Palette Pavillon, wird 12.30 nachm. der Brig. zur Verfügung gestellt. Vormarsch auf vorher erkundetem Wege durch den Wald bis an den Weg von Binarville nach Moulin de l'Homme mort.

Lage: II./38 ist in das Bois de la Grurie vorgestoßen und kommt in dem dichten Argonnengestrüpp schlecht vorwärts. Es sieht sich in seiner linken Flanke umgangen und geht auf die Höhen östlich Binarville, linker Flügel bei Punkt 212, zurück. In die Schützenlinien sind zwei Batterien der I./F.A.R. 6 eingeschoben. 3.45 nachm. drängt der Gegner nach und droht mit weiterer Umfassung links. F./10, welchem das II./38 und die I./F.A.R. 6 unterstellt werden, verstärkt und verlängert die Schützenlinie zunächst durch Einsetzen der 12., dann der 11. Komp. Das Gefecht tobt weiter. Allmählich werden auch 9./ und 10./10 eingesetzt. 1./Pi. 6 bleibt Res. Gegen 5.00 nachm. klärt sich die Lage, so daß je ein Zug der 12. und 11. Komp. herausgezogen und zur Sicherung der linken Flanke verwendet werden; hier ist bereits ein Zug Pioniere eingesetzt worden. Die Flanke bleibt dauernd gefährdet, obwohl das Rgt. Jäger zu Pferde 11 (abgesessen) und Karabinerschützen der Munitionskolonnen den Schutz mit übernommen haben. Als gegen 7.00 abds. in der Front ein heftiger französischer Angriff erfolgt, wird der zweite Zug der Pi.Komp, dem II./38 zur Verfügung gestellt. Unterstützt von der aus nur ganz kurze Entfernung schießenden Feld-Artl. wird der Angriff blutig abgeschlagen. F./10 erbittet und erhält zur Unterstützung eine Komp. Res.Pi. 11, sowie eine aus Leuten der Landwehr-Rgtr. 26 und 118 zusammengesetzte Komp. Diese haben die Straße Binarville—Apremont zu sperren. Die Komp. werden an dem Wege nach Moulin de l'Homme mort eingesetzt, während 11./10 sich nördlich des Weges eingräbt und allmählich Anschluß an Jäger-Rgt. z. Pf. 11 gewinnt. Der Feind erneuert seine Angriffe aus dem Bois de la Grurie bis gegen Mitternacht. Sie sind alle erfolglos.

Tot: Lt. d. R. Preißner, 17 Unteroffiziere und Mann; verwundet: Major v. Rheinbaben, Lt. Stephan, Lt. d. R. Hagedorn, 93 Unteroffiziere und Mann.

Dem I./ und II./10 standen gegenüber Teile der französischen Rgtr. 72, 126, 128, dem F./10 Teile der Rgtr. 120, 147, 183 und Alpenjäger. Der Erfolg, den die 11. Div. am 15. 9. erzielt hat, bestand darin, daß dem das XVIII. R.A.K. versolgenden Feinde (Teil der Armee des Gen. de Langle) ein endgültiges Halt geboten wurde. Das Rgt. hat am Tage von Binarville durch Aushalten im schweren Artl.-Feuer, wie durch den Kampf östl. des Dorfes bewiesen, daß sein Geist trotz der schweren Verluste und der großen Anstrengungen der altpreußische war.
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(Translation from Google Translate)

September 15th. For the VI. A.K. a day off is planned. It will then move to the 3rd Army in the Reims area. But the opponent seizes the XVIll R.K. so sharp that the 22nd Inf.Brig with the F.A.R. 42 on the right wing, the rest of the entire 11th Inf. must be thrown into combat on the left wing of this corps, and the persecution is brought to a halt by this insertion.

7.15 am Rgt. receives the order to move to Autry. Long stop here. The cannon thunder in the southern direction intensifies more and more. 10.00 am March on to Binarville. 10.15 am the command to attack on the eastern edge of the forest is 1¼ Klm. northwest Binarville issued (see sketch 3).

The Rgt. Has to attack the opponent located between Servon and the Binarville-Vienne le Château road. F./10 will attack together with the 1./Pi.6 Div.-Res.

II./10 right, goes with right wing over point 179 southwest of Binarville on St. Thomas, I./10 left, following the footpath on the road. 38, M.G.K. as res. behind the middle.

II./10 is divided into 5th / 10th and 7th / 10th primarily, 6th / 10th behind 5th / 10th, 8th / 10th on the right staggered in the second line. I./10 takes 1st, 3rd, 4th comp. In the first line, while 2nd / 10th follows behind the middle.

The procedure up to the ridge north of the Binarville-Servon road is without enemy. Counteraction. Here the first Schrappnells hit. The individual companies plunge into the ground hard south of the street and arrange themselves here. The process continues. The general line: south edge of the forest southwest of point 179 — north edge Bois de la Grurie is reached. Here already the associations with parts of the 25th Res.Div. a, especially with the Inf.Rgt. 116. Heavy enemy Fire forces 4:00 p.m. to hold. There are considerable losses, I./10 also receives flanking inf. Fire from the Bois de la Grurie and has to bend its front more and more to the southeast and east. 1./10 without a train (Lt. Hochbaum), which is already fighting in the front line, Art. Covering east of point 179.

The enemy threw himself into the Argonne with great force and from there pressed the foot. 38, which cannot penetrate the dense forest. His art. stands with parts to the east and southeast of Servon at point 166 and point 188 north of Bienne le Château; further information lies on the northern slope of the Ruisseau de la Noue Dieusson and on the Servan-Pavillon road. Overwhelming art. does not allow any further action. Lt. Schaefer, 5th / 10th, with some men penetrates alone over the Ruisseau de la Vallée Moreau.

I./10 and II./10 as well as the M.G.K. remain in the positions reached and dig themselves in. Since II./10 and Inf.Rgt. 116 in the front line are sufficient, in the evening the accessible parts of I./10 are withdrawn and as res. Of the Rgts. provided basically east of la Mare aux Boeufs.

F./10 with 1./Pi. 6, initially Div.Res. at la Palette Pavillon, 12.30 p.m. made available to the Brig. Advance on previously explored paths through the forest to the path from Binarville to Moulin de l'Homme mort.

Location: II./38 has entered the Bois de la Grurie and is making poor progress in the thick Argonne scrub. It sees itself bypassed in its left flank and goes back to the heights east of Binarville, left wing at point 212. In the rifle lines are two batteries of the I./F.A.R. 6 inserted. 3.45 pm the opponent pushes in and threatens to embrace the left. F./10, which the II./38 and the I./F.A.R. 6 are assumed, the rifle line is strengthened and extended first by inserting the 12th, then the 11th comp. The battle rages on. Gradually 9th / 10th / 10th are used. 1./Pi. 6 remains res. Around 5.00 pm the situation is cleared, so that a train of the 12th and 11th comp. is pulled out and used to secure the left flank; a train of pioneers has already been deployed here. The flank remains endangered even though the Rgt. Jäger auf Pferd 11 (eaten) and carabiners of the ammunition columns took over the protection. When a violent French attack took place in the front around 7:00 a.m., the second platoon of Pi.Komp, the II./38, was made available. Supported by the field artillery that shoots only a very short distance. the attack is beaten off bloody. F./10 solicits and receives a Comp. Res.Pi. 11, as well as one from people of Landwehr-Rgtr. 26 and 118 compound comp. These have to block the Binarville-Apremont road. The comp. Are used on the way to Moulin de l'Homme mort, while 11./10 digs in to the north of the way and gradually connects to Jäger-Rgt. e.g. Pf. 11 wins. The enemy renewed its attacks from the Bois de la Grurie until around midnight. They are all unsuccessful.

Dead: Lt. d. R. Preißner, 17 non-commissioned officers and man; wounded: Major v. Rheinbaben, Lt. Stephan, Lt. d. R. Hagedorn, 93 non-commissioned officers and a man.

The I. / and II./10 faced parts of the French Rgtr. 72, 126, 128, the F./10 parts of Rgtr. 120, 147, 183 and Alpenjäger. The success that the 11th Div. achieved on September 15th consisted of the fact that the XVIII. R.A.K. following enemies (part of the army of Gen. de Langle) were given a definitive stop. On the day of Binarville, the Rgt. Proved by staying in the heavy art fire, as by the struggle east of the village, that despite the heavy casualties and great efforts, its spirit was old Prussian.

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Any idea of the French unit(s) who were opposed to them?

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French situation map evening 14 Sep 1914
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Thank you all for the contributions :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by Ken S. » 13 Jun 2020, 00:51

This is from the history of Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 116 (referred to as "Inf.Rgt. 116" in the account from GR10 above). I've included the entries for the day before and after since there isn't much stated about the events of the 15th.

14. 9. 14. Rückmarsch der Division in eine Stellung Höhe 140 nordwestlich Servon — 170 nordöstlich Servon — 182 südlich Binarville. Regiment folgt als Nachhut der Division, um den Aisne-Übergang der Division bei Vienne-la-Ville zu decken. Da der Übergang sich verzögerte, konnte das Regiment erst 11 30 vorm. folgen. Dabei drängten die Franzosen beiderseits der Straße von St. Ménehould vor, es gelang aber, alle Vorstöße mit kameradschaftlicher Unterstützung der Abteilung Krug v. Nidda (R.F.A.R. 25) abzuweisen. Kaum war die Komp. Goetze über die Brücke, als so heftiges Artilleriefeuer vom Feinde dorthin gelegt wurde, daß das Regiment sich einen anderen Übergang bei St. Thomas suchen mußte und so die Division erreichte. Hier wurde das Regiment um so freudiger begrüßt, als man schon geglaubt hatte, das Regiment sei vom Feinde abgeschnitten. Bei Binarvilles wurde endlich wieder Front gemacht. Wie eine Erlösung wirkte die Nachricht, daß nun nicht weiter zurückgegangen würde.

15. 9. 14. Angriff der Division auf Servon, der Ort wird nach ziemlich verlustreichem Gefecht genommen, es gelingt aber nicht weiter über die Straße Servon—Pavillon vorzudringen. Das Regiment ging von Höhe 179 südswestlich Binarville auf la Noue de Beaumont-Ferme zum Angriff vor. Die Franzosen wurden über das Rideau de la Vallée zurückgeworfen. Der Rückzug hatte den Angriffsgeist nicht herabgemindert. 40 Tote verlor das Regiment.

16. 9. 14. Der Angriff wird fortgesetzt. 10 0 Befehl zum Angriff auf St. Thomas nach Artillerie-Vorbereitung. Da starke feindliche Kräfte im Vorgehen aus Argonner Wald auf Vienne-le-Château gemeldet sind, wird der Angriff nicht durchgeführt. Das Regiment bleibt als Divisions-Reserve an der Straße la Mare-aux-Boeufs—Servon, 800m südlich Servon.
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Post by jluetjen » 13 Jun 2020, 02:26

While there is conflicting data on-line, it appears that this original French document confirm the 2nd Army Corp as being part of the 2nd Army starting on the 8th of August.

An Army level summary Per Les armées françaises dans la Grande guerre. Tome premier. 1,4
The reports received on the morning of September 15 in Dommartin-sur-Yèvre, confirm this forecast. At 9:20, information from the colonial corps indicates that this body at the northern edge of Bois de Ville, the brickyard, and set foot in hill 191(The brickyard is located west of the Ville-sur-Tourbe road, Cernay-en-Dormois, 100 meters north of Ville-sur-Tourbe. Hill 191 is 800 meters north of Massiges.). The combat progresses more quickly than yesterday, the artillery pushes forward. The connection exists with neighboring bodies. Favorable impression (see Situation of the colonial body at 9 a.m., 9 20, 15 September 1914, Anaexe 96)

A little later, the 2nd corps reports that an attack has just been triggered, starting from the Servon front, hill 176, in the general direction
north, northeast, while in the east, a brigade about, spawning a path through the thickets of the Grurie wood, begins to emerge near Pavilion (The Pavilion is not marked on the map at 1 / 80,000 ', it is at the crossroads of the route Vienne-le-Château, Binarville, with the road from Servon via hill 166.), towards Binarville and hill 212 (Situation of the 2nd Army Corp at 11:00 AM).
From the 17th Army Corp, no precise news seems to have been received. The General de Langle de Cary is not unaware of his situation, however. He wakes up against the "far too soft and irresolute" way in which the attacks are carried out. He told the corps commander, General J. B. Dumas, and requests him to transmit to the heads of the troops of the 17th corps, "The expression of all his dissatisfaction"

This information does not appear to have been the only information sent to the General of Langle de Cary. From 1 o'clock in the morning, this one summarizes in thus the situation of his army and its idea of ​​maneuver: "The enemy today offers less resistance on the front of his rearguards. The 2 Corp is advancing on Binarville. The colonial Corp on Cernay-en-Dormois. The 17th corps is still arrested in front of Perthes-les-Hurlus. My
right has orders to reach Grandpré, Monthois as soon as possible.

This idea of maneuvering indicates to the commander of the Fourth Army the hope of continuing, at least by his right, the pursuit to the north. This hope is again found in the request addressed at 12 noon to the general-in-chief. For ten days, the Fourth Army has been deprived of cavalry. This absence of mobile and rapid lights was felt during the chase, particularly on September 13, in the Aisne valley. "I consider that it would be necessary to assign to the Fourth Army at least one brigade of dragons or light, with a battery on horseback, which would be used to cooperate in the pursuit on its front.

A communication from the Ninth Army, indicating that, according to information from airmen and residents of Somme-Py, the enemy is carrying out shipments at the station in this village, reinforces the commander of the Fourth Army in his intention to continue his progression north. "Push your attacks," he orders, specifying the objective to be reached: the Somme-Py railroad, Manre2.
This objective represents a particularly valuable supply route for the enemy, since from Grandpré in the east to Bazancourt in the west, it supplies all German units engaged against a short distance, over a route of over sixty kilometers the armies of the center. His abduction would mark a very clear success for the Fourth Army; General de Langle de Cary therefore endeavored to make himself master of it.

On the colonial front, all attempts to advance north are shattered by enemy fire.
On the left wing, in front of the 7th C.A., progress is insignificant. The 34th division took root on the nipple of the Perthes mill and on the slopes north of Hurlus. On its right, the 33rd division holds the Mesnil, but has been unable, almost anywhere, to cross the road between this village and the farm of Beauséjour.
Thus, the railroad, final objective of the attacks of the Fourth Army on September 15, is not reached. At no point even, it is under the fire of artillery.
This unexpected resistance from the enemy is not, after the information of the morning, without surprising the executors. It shows that the German line, already fixed the day before in front of the left of the Fourth Army, has gradually stabilized from west to east.

Despite this new situation, General de Langle de Cary persists with the intention of developing, the next day, the offensive movement already started. He recommends to his corps commanders, as the general-in-chief has just prescribed, to "take methodical attack measures, with all our means, by gradually organizing the conquered ground." It therefore fixes closer points of direction than those indicated the day before.
The 2nd corps will seek to overtake the enemy through Binarville; the colonial body will make its effort in the direction of Séchault, in connection with Maisons de Champagne with the 1st 7th corps. This one will take as objective the mound of Tahure.

No sooner had these arrangements been made when, in the night, in Dommartin-sur-Yèvre, a request for support from the IXth Army. General Foch considers his maneuver on the 16th achievable if the Ninth Army is guaranteed against any threat from his adversary targeting his right flank. Only the Fourth Army, with the reserve at its disposal, can assure it the cover of this flank. "The support of the Fourth Army, acting in the northwest direction, is greatly desired in the Somme-Py region1".
This support, the commander of the Fourth Army did not spare it. He prescribed, in fact, to General Roques, commanding the 1st 2nd Corps, to be able to emerge, at 10 am, with a division, from the Souain front, rump marked source of the Ain2, in the direction of Somme-Py. The other division will follow, in echelon behind on the right, ready to engage on the left of the 17th corps, on the order of the army commander3.

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Re: Argonne, War zone 1914-18.

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Post by jluetjen » 13 Jun 2020, 03:05

From "Historique du 120e régiment d'infanterie pendant la guerre 1914-1918"

Note the reference to the weather -- cold with heavy rain, which could not have helped the visibility.
On September 12, the entire 4th division, like the entire army, resumed marching forward in the direction of the north. The 120th canton in Nettancourt where we receive important reinforcements, which bring the strength of our units to more than 250 men per company.
On the 14th, we cross again, music in mind, Sainte-Menehould and settle in Moiremont; new enemy prisoners are taken in these localities. On the 15th, the enemy joined finally faced, installed on positions organized by its reserves.

While the main body of our division engages in a violent fight in Servon, the 120th receives the order to go by Viennele-Château, la Harazée, through the Bois de la Gruerie to Binarville.

Slow and painful walk, in pouring and freezing rain, on paths barely traced and absolutely, soggy. The companies must advance in column by one, the three battalions on the same front (from left to right: 1st, 26 and 36 battalions).

At 4 p.m., answering the urgent calls of the Division General, whose forces are fighting desperately in Servon, the Lieutenant-Colonel resigned himself to precipitating the attack on the 1st battalion; then, a little later, that of the 2nd and 36 battalions which have to carry out, through a very tight wood, a change of direction from north to west.

The enemy artillery is in sight, in a buried position at 212, east of Binarville.

The 2nd battalion literally launched an assault on these batteries, but was stopped barely 200 meters from the cannons by the fires at
machine-gun of these and that of the machine-guns which protect it. (Captain VOGEL particularly distinguished himself that day.)

Same failure, for the same reason, with the 36 battalion which attacks, a little later, in the northeast of Binarville.

However, we hold the western edges of the Bois de la Gruerie to the Mill of the Dead Man, and spend the night, still in torrential rain, on the conquered positions.

This day will have cost 351 men to the Regiment; Sub-Lieutenant COURTOIS and Sub-Lieutenant CHARUE are killed.

From then on, will begin for the 120th, a severe period that will count in the splendor of the Regiment.

We will have to fight against the 16th German Corps (General VON MUDRA), that of Metz, specially trained in fortress warfare and, for this purpose, provided with powerful means (minenwerfers, hand grenades, track 60), of which we have hitherto been very deprived. On the other hand, still convinced that the march forward will resume, we are only reluctant to organize the land that bad weather and soon winter will make in these woods, very uninhabitable.
Eight times, the Regiment, which will take its rest in the Placardelle or in Florent, will go up in line and the fight will take, in this wood of the Gruerie which the enemy absolutely wants to seize, an exceptional character of violence.

1st Stay. - On September 16 and 17, continuous exchange of fire; we are at the bivouac, in the woods, with supplies and evacuations of the wounded which are difficult to carry out.

On the 18th, relieved by units of the 3rd division, we go back, first to the Harazée, then to the Placardelle, where we are working on the organization of a fallback position.
Separately, in the section for awards is noted...
n addition, had been cited to the order of the Army: Captain VOGEL: vigorous officer, seriously wounded on September 15, at Binarville, leading his company to the assault of a German battery which he sought to remove and of which he was only 30 yards at the time he was wounded.
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Re: Argonne, War zone 1914-18.

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Post by jluetjen » 13 Jun 2020, 03:23

From "17e régt d'artillerie de campagne : historique du régiment"
On the 14th, the 3rd D.I. crossed Sainte-Menehould, now having contact with the enemy, who began to resist in the Sermon - Binarville region.

On the morning of September 15, the groups had to take up positions at the end of the woods on the Vienne-le-Château - Binarville route, and north of Saint-Thomas, in order to support the infantry stopped in its progression. The Germans were now resisting; infantry and artillerymen soon tested it; the shells were raining heavily; despite all efforts ,. the infantry could not maintain Servon and in the evening the groups had to be brought back slightly.

The following days, the enemy launched numerous and vigorous attacks which the division could not repel only thanks to the assistance of its artillery and its precise shots. Several times the batteries stopped the momentum of the assault troops; they often had to be shot-at sight within 1,000 meters.

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