defences of Heligoland

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defences of Heligoland

Post by nastle » 04 Oct 2021 00:23

Hello

Can anyone share a map or list of defences on Heligoland at the start of the war ?

much appreciate it

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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by kstdk » 04 Oct 2021 09:43

Hello

I have theese two from 1937 and 1938, may be of use to you?

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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by Hans1906 » 04 Oct 2021 15:04

This link in German will answer some of your questions:

Festung Helgoland http://www.festungsbauten.de/D/Helgoland.htm
Festungsbauten start page: http://www.festungsbauten.de/index.htm

There is very much more Online, just try another search for "helgoland weltkrieg"...

Good luck for your further researches ! :milwink:


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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by nastle » 05 Oct 2021 11:43

Good morning

Thank you Gentlemen that helps me a lot

best regards

Nate

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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Oct 2021 14:07

Nate, you are welcome,

a former schoolmate of ours served as a soldier in the Bundeswehr / Marineflieger in Nordholz, and also on Helgoland, the young man was attached to the Marinefliegergeschwaders 5, a SAR ("Search and Rescue") unit.

Link: https://www.gme-airfoto.de/afinside/arc ... schwader5/

Here another nice docu from the year 1990 (?) about the history of Helgoland:

Helgoland - 100 Jahre deutsch, ARD 30.7.1990



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P.S. The above documentary from 1990 is quite patriotically colored, certainly very typical for the year 1990, after the German reunification.
One should excuse the reporting at that time...
Helgoland is one of those typical German places of longing, I have visited the island only three times, once as a day traveler, and twice as a weekend visitor.
The island is a touching place, especially for people interested in history, highly recommended.
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Post by Felix C » 18 Oct 2021 21:31

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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by reedwh52 » 21 Oct 2021 03:24

If I understand correctly, the original poster was asking about pre-WW ONE. The After the Battle # 154 contains a map and text descripping the defences during the WW 1 time frame. The armaments were significantly different from those of the 3rd Rech era.

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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by Hans1906 » 22 Oct 2021 15:33

reedwh52,

you are right, but what about your sources, more links, so please share all this...

Another NDR documantary, a TV production from the year 1965:

Hummercocktail: Porträt der Nordsee-Insel Helgoland https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/ndr_retro ... en334.html


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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by kstdk » 27 Oct 2021 10:55

Hello
nastle wrote:
04 Oct 2021 00:23
HelloCan anyone share a map or list of defences on Heligoland at the start of the war ?
much appreciate it
Nastle, please check your PM and your e-mail - I have send you some informations - if you are still interested that is????

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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by deku » 18 Sep 2022 12:43

Hello,
i´m also very interested in the fortifications of Heligoland from the end of 19th century until 1918.
The publication of Fröhle/Kühn "Hochseefestung Helgoland I" is th best documentation I could find.
But there's another one, written in German language, which has a lot of plans and old (historic) photographs: it is the official description of the "Entfestigung" (disarming, destroying)after ww1 from about 1920-22:
https://digital.zlb.de/viewer/image/15244654_1924/68/

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Re: defences of Heligoland

Post by deku » 18 Sep 2022 17:40

kstdk wrote:
04 Oct 2021 09:43
I have theese two from 1937 and 1938, may be of use to you?
Hi @kstdk
it's a curious thing about both plans:
the first (1937) is otherwise called "geheime Kommandosache" (means: top secret) in 1937, but it shows the situation before ww1 and before the "Entfestigung" => this plan was never "top secret": it was published in 1924 (description of disarming/destroying, "Entfestigung")
the second (1936) shows a conception of new fortifications, but without the not totally destroyed parts (like "Nord-Gruppe" and "Süd-Gruppe") and a funny thing ist "Batterie Tanganijika" on the really and totally destroyed "Haubitzen Batterie".

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