Hitler 1913-1914

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Hitler 1913-1914

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Post by Linkagain » 13 Dec 2021, 17:46

Is it true that Hitler In 1913 tried to beg to exade his physical exam for the austrain Hungarain Army only to fail the Physical exam?
After the Auschless Hitler tried to find the records of his less then heroic attempts to evade conscription in Vienna only to find they had had already been removed? Were these records published in a book of Hitler The Young years?
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Post by wm » 15 Dec 2021, 21:44

He wrote in Mein Kampf he was not going to fight for Austria-Hungary but was ready to die for Germany. So he really had nothing to hide.


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Post by Steve » 29 Dec 2021, 16:30

Hitler left Austria to avoid military conscription. He should have registered for conscription in Linz in late 1909 shortly before he became liable for conscription in April 1910 when he turned 21. Evasion of military service was punishable with a large fine. In May 1913 he crossed into Germany. Leaving Austria to avoid conscription was regarded as desertion and could be punished by a prison sentence. For whatever reason the police in Linz started to take more interest in him in August 1913 and they traced him to Munich. In January 1914 he was served a summons to appear in Linz and was arrested. Hitler wrote a long humble letter explaining why he had failed to register for military service in Linz. He was given permission to travel to Saltzburg (he had requested it) in order to register for military service. The Austrian consulate in Munich felt so sorry for him they paid his travel expenses. He failed his medical in February because he was too weak for military service and returned to Munich. What Hitler wrote about his early life should be taken with a shovel of salt.
Taken from Hitler1889-1936 by Ian Kershaw

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Post by wm » 02 Jan 2022, 01:58

Kubizek in his book writes numerous times that young Hitler hated the "multinational Habsburg Empire".

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Post by Steve » 03 Jan 2022, 06:10

Yes I’m sure Hitler did hate the “multinational Habsburg Empire” but he does not seem to have left just because of that. It’s a long time since I read about his early life but with the help of several cups of tea and a packet of digestive biscuits I got through it.

If he thought so much of Germany you have to wonder why he never left for Munich sooner. The reason may be to do with the money he was due to inherit from his father on April 20 1913 when he turned twenty four. The district court in Linz confirmed on May 16 that he should receive with interest the sum of 819 Krone. The money would be posted to the “artist” Adolf Hitler at the men’s home in Vienna. Presumably it took a couple of days to reach him and if it was in the form of a cheque or whatever then he had to cash it and that may have taken a few days. On May 24 he left Vienna for Munich and probably this was as soon as he could. Apparently he was waiting for the money before leaving and once he received the money by post he probably assumed that the Linz police had his address. He needed to move quickly if he wanted to avoid being arrested and put into the army.

In early 1913 Hitler had been telling people at the men’s home in Vienna that he intended going to Munich to enter the Art Academy. When the police arrived at the home someone would have told them where he was going.

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Post by wm » 03 Jan 2022, 12:32

For Hitler Austria was Germany too, although "occupied" by the Habsburgs. He had no (political) reason to leave "Germany" for Germany unless the "occupation" had become too onerous.

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Post by Linkagain » 03 Jan 2022, 14:03

The remark about Hitler trying to find the conscription records...I think it was Alvin Bullock biography of AH

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Post by Steve » 05 Jan 2022, 16:26

A Franz Jetzinger got hold of Hitler’s Austrian military file and hid it from the Gestapo. In 1956 he included it in his book Hitler’s Jugend. An English version of the book can be found for sale but it is quite pricey.

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Post by Linkagain » 11 Jan 2022, 14:05

Thanks Id Know there was a book about Hitler military file being saved....
By the way this photograph 2 August 1914 shows A H confirming his joy at war breaking out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hitl ... ffmann.jpg

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