Trubia light tanks
Trubia light tanks
Hello,
I'm very interested in this unique Spanish tank design. I know there's a book about Trubia tanks but I'm unable to get it and I can't read Spanish either.
So, how many types of Trubia tanks were built? Can anyone show me some 4-view plans and detailed info of each type?
Thanks!
I'm very interested in this unique Spanish tank design. I know there's a book about Trubia tanks but I'm unable to get it and I can't read Spanish either.
So, how many types of Trubia tanks were built? Can anyone show me some 4-view plans and detailed info of each type?
Thanks!
Last edited by YC Chen on 24 Jul 2010, 09:39, edited 1 time in total.
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There were four prototype-preseries "Trubia Serie A" tanks originally built in 1926 in Trubia (Asturias). Of them, three were with Infantry Regiment nº 32 "Milán" and took part in the defense of Oviedo. The fourth tank was in the artillery factory when the war started, and was used by the goverment forces against Oviedo on 10 September, when it was lost.
Crew: 3 men
Weight: 8,900kg
Length: 5.38m
Width: 2.11m
Height: 2.39m
Engine: Daimler MV-1574, 4-cylinder, 75hp at 900rpm
Maximum speed: 19km/h
Armour: 20mm (maximum)
Armament: 3 x 7mm Hotchkiss machine-guns
Vertical obstacle: 380mm
Trench crossing : 2.13m
Fording: 609mm
On 1 January 1936 the definitive plans for the "Carro de Combate Ligero para Infantería Trubia Modelo 1936", based on the work on this preseries vehicles, had been approved, but with the start of the war it was impossible to start the construction. The blueprints were taken to Euzkadi to use them to build a a tank using the heavy industries in that area. The work was carried out in Sestao, in the factory of the Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (SECN). This new tank received different names, among them "Carro de Combate Ligero Trubia Modelo 1936" or "Trubia-Naval". There were plans to build 48, but only 16 were finished, though when the factory was occupied there was a number of them near finishing (for a total of 20-25?). They fought in the Campaña del Norte, the nine surviving vehicles being finally captured by the rebels. This was really a very bad design: it had a very small size, a noisy engine and an almost non-existent ventilation system that made it very uncomfortable for the crew, and its cross-country mobility was very poor. Characteristics:
Crew: 3 men
Weight: 5,500kg
Length: 3.55m
Width: 1.70m
Height: 1.85m
Engine: MAN D-0530, diesel, 6-cylinder, 70hp at 1,800rpm
Maximum speed: 42km/h
Armour: 13 + 3mm (maximum)
Armament: 2 x 7.7mm Lewis machine-guns with 9,600 rounds
Vertical obstacle: 650mm
Trench crossing : 1.60m
Fording: 600mm
Both models of Trubia tanks were really very different: they had different chassis, different engines, different bodies, different turrets... The only thing that both vehicles had in common was the track system.
Hope this helps. Regards.
Characteristics:Crew: 3 men
Weight: 8,900kg
Length: 5.38m
Width: 2.11m
Height: 2.39m
Engine: Daimler MV-1574, 4-cylinder, 75hp at 900rpm
Maximum speed: 19km/h
Armour: 20mm (maximum)
Armament: 3 x 7mm Hotchkiss machine-guns
Vertical obstacle: 380mm
Trench crossing : 2.13m
Fording: 609mm
On 1 January 1936 the definitive plans for the "Carro de Combate Ligero para Infantería Trubia Modelo 1936", based on the work on this preseries vehicles, had been approved, but with the start of the war it was impossible to start the construction. The blueprints were taken to Euzkadi to use them to build a a tank using the heavy industries in that area. The work was carried out in Sestao, in the factory of the Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval (SECN). This new tank received different names, among them "Carro de Combate Ligero Trubia Modelo 1936" or "Trubia-Naval". There were plans to build 48, but only 16 were finished, though when the factory was occupied there was a number of them near finishing (for a total of 20-25?). They fought in the Campaña del Norte, the nine surviving vehicles being finally captured by the rebels. This was really a very bad design: it had a very small size, a noisy engine and an almost non-existent ventilation system that made it very uncomfortable for the crew, and its cross-country mobility was very poor. Characteristics:
Crew: 3 men
Weight: 5,500kg
Length: 3.55m
Width: 1.70m
Height: 1.85m
Engine: MAN D-0530, diesel, 6-cylinder, 70hp at 1,800rpm
Maximum speed: 42km/h
Armour: 13 + 3mm (maximum)
Armament: 2 x 7.7mm Lewis machine-guns with 9,600 rounds
Vertical obstacle: 650mm
Trench crossing : 1.60m
Fording: 600mm
Both models of Trubia tanks were really very different: they had different chassis, different engines, different bodies, different turrets... The only thing that both vehicles had in common was the track system.
Hope this helps. Regards.
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Wonderful! Thank you very much!!
Does anyone have 4-view plans of both models?
Does anyone have 4-view plans of both models?
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@Ironmachine - thanks for this useful data. Can I ask, where did you source it from?
Thanks,
normski-
Thanks,
normski-
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Also: is it correct that Trubia equipped its tanks with double armour?
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Well, kind of. The Trubia-Naval had an internal armor sheet of 3 mm, an external sheet of 13 mm, and between them there was some other material that AFAIK has not been identified. Probably the intention was to increase protection without adding too much weight, but it must be remembered that making armor steel was difficult for the Spanish industry so perhaps it was simply that there was nothing else available.
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Thanks Ironmachine
Source for the data? Later than the 2 Mazarassa books I think?
Source for the data? Later than the 2 Mazarassa books I think?
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AFAIK, the best (and only?) book about the Trubia tanks is Los Carros de combate “Trubia” (1925 -1939) by Artemio Mortera Pérez.
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that one before.
Mazarassa's books contain data on the Serie A, but no data on the Trubia Naval, only some photos of it.
Does Perez' book contain schematics of the Serie A?
Mazarassa's books contain data on the Serie A, but no data on the Trubia Naval, only some photos of it.
Does Perez' book contain schematics of the Serie A?
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I'm not at home now and it will be some time before I can get back to my books. I will ask you ASAP.
Regards.
Regards.
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Are there any plans of the Trubia tanks in the book? If so, I would like to see them.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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@YC Chen
There are schematics of the Trubia-Naval on page 4 of the pamphlet 'Tanks & Trucks of the Spanish Civil War' , John Wilson, Partizan Press 1989 ISBN 094652559 5
http://www.caliverbooks.com
But they are a bit rough and probably inaccurate.
There are schematics of the Trubia-Naval on page 4 of the pamphlet 'Tanks & Trucks of the Spanish Civil War' , John Wilson, Partizan Press 1989 ISBN 094652559 5
http://www.caliverbooks.com
But they are a bit rough and probably inaccurate.
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Thanks, but I have already had that plan. I'm looking for a plan of "Trubia Serie A".
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Sorry, YC Chen, I had completely forgotten about this. This is the best I have at the time:
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The book contains a 2-view schematics of the Serie A that is almost the same that the one I have in my previous post (except that the one in the book do not have the measures; the one I posted did not come from the book but from a Trubia Association's newsletter) and a 3-view schematics of the Carro de Combate Ligero para Infantería Modelo 1936, that was the original design on which the Trubia-Naval was based (they are quite similar, at least in appeareance).normski- wrote:Thanks, I hadn't seen that one before.
Mazarassa's books contain data on the Serie A, but no data on the Trubia Naval, only some photos of it.
Does Perez' book contain schematics of the Serie A?
Regards.