Spanish mortars
Spanish mortars
I'm looking for technical data ( range of fire, combat weight, shell wieght etc. ) pictures, diagrams of following mortars:
1. Mortero sistema Lafitte de 60mm and mortero Valero de 60 mm modelo 1926,
2. Mortero ligero Valero-Ecia, de 50 milímetros, modelo 1932, 1941 and 1942,
3. Mortero Franco de 120 mm modelo 1939,
4. Mortero Placencia de 240mm modelo 1940.
1. Mortero sistema Lafitte de 60mm and mortero Valero de 60 mm modelo 1926,
2. Mortero ligero Valero-Ecia, de 50 milímetros, modelo 1932, 1941 and 1942,
3. Mortero Franco de 120 mm modelo 1939,
4. Mortero Placencia de 240mm modelo 1940.
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here is a littlemasqqqq wrote:I'm looking for technical data ( range of fire, combat weight, shell wieght etc. ) pictures, diagrams of following mortars:
1. Mortero sistema Lafitte de 60mm and mortero Valero de 60 mm modelo 1926,
2. Mortero ligero Valero-Ecia, de 50 milímetros, modelo 1932, 1941 and 1942,
3. Mortero Franco de 120 mm modelo 1939,
4. Mortero Placencia de 240mm modelo 1940.
http://www.elgrancapitan.org/foro/viewt ... =7&t=18667
http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerzas/ ... rteros.htm
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Some more info:
Mortero Placencia de 240mm modelo 1940:
http://perso.wanadoo.es/padron/artilleria/pieza217.html
http://www.elgrancapitan.org/foro/viewtopic.php?t=15797
Mortero Valero de 60 mm modelo 1926:
http://ejercito1936.files.wordpress.com ... ages1.jpeg
Mortero Valero modelo 1940 de calibre 50 mm:
http://ejercito1936.files.wordpress.com ... valero.jpg
Mortero Placencia de 240mm modelo 1940:
http://perso.wanadoo.es/padron/artilleria/pieza217.html
http://www.elgrancapitan.org/foro/viewtopic.php?t=15797
Mortero Valero de 60 mm modelo 1926:
http://ejercito1936.files.wordpress.com ... ages1.jpeg
Mortero Valero modelo 1940 de calibre 50 mm:
http://ejercito1936.files.wordpress.com ... valero.jpg
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And with the help of the Wayback Machine, from an excellent webpage that is no longer with us:
The Valero system:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710111821 ... valero.htm
Valero 50mm:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710260027 ... mal_50.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/200711082025 ... orl_50.htm
Valero 60mm:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710272313 ... ero_60.htm
Lafitte 60mm:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710272311 ... tte_60.htm
The Valero system:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710111821 ... valero.htm
Valero 50mm:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710260027 ... mal_50.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/200711082025 ... orl_50.htm
Valero 60mm:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710272313 ... ero_60.htm
Lafitte 60mm:
http://web.archive.org/web/200710272311 ... tte_60.htm
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It is not the modelo 1942. According to my links, that photo is taken from the Prontuario de Armamento de 1939, and shows a variant of the modelo 1932 built by the Maestranza de Sevilla.
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Thank you Ironmachine!Ironmachine wrote:It is not the modelo 1942. According to my links, that photo is taken from the Prontuario de Armamento de 1939, and shows a variant of the modelo 1932 built by the Maestranza de Sevilla.
So no photos of the two mortars - Valero-Ecia de 50 mm modelo 1942 and Franco de 120 mm modelo 1939
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The Valero 50mm modelo 1942 was similar to the modelo 1941.
Regarding the mortero Franco de 120mm, it is difficult to find photos. I can only provide this (not very good) picture. It is from the cover of Revista Española de Historia Militar nº 76: Inside the magazine there is an article about the employment of those mortars by the Spanish Blue Division and I suppose that more photos are included, but unfortunately I don't have the magazine.
Regards.
Regarding the mortero Franco de 120mm, it is difficult to find photos. I can only provide this (not very good) picture. It is from the cover of Revista Española de Historia Militar nº 76: Inside the magazine there is an article about the employment of those mortars by the Spanish Blue Division and I suppose that more photos are included, but unfortunately I don't have the magazine.
Regards.
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I have a copy of the Carnet del Instructor - Descripción del mortero "Franco" de 120 mm. y su granada, a small (24 pages) pocket-sized booklet that describes in detail this weapon and how it works (it is obviously in Spanish). Unfortunately, it has no pictures but includes a detailed cross-view drawing of the tube mechanisms. If anyone is interested, I can scan and post it here.
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It would be interesting.
On the other hand, Does somebody have any wartime images of the 81mm Valero M1933 mortar?
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
On the other hand, Does somebody have any wartime images of the 81mm Valero M1933 mortar?
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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This one is from Manrique and Molina's Las armas de la Guerra Civil Española:
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Thank you very much, Ironmachine.
There are very few wartime images of this mortar.
Sturm78
There are very few wartime images of this mortar.
Sturm78
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Well, there are some wartime photographs in the catalog from the Fotografías de la Guerra Civil en Zaragoza. Talleres Mercier, fábrica de municiones (1936-1939) exhibition, though for obvious reasons they are not "action" pictures but images of the weapons in the factory. Anyway, here you are:
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Thank you very much, again, Ironmachine.
Greetings Sturm78
Greetings Sturm78