Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Arto O » 15 Mar 2014 05:32

Thanks Ironmachine for the answer and the interesting history.
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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Arto O » 17 Mar 2014 06:03

Hi,
Did this kind of insignia existed? A swastica inside a black circle.
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Italian planes atacking the port of Malaga
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Source: mundohistoria.org
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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Maxschnauzer » 17 Mar 2014 10:22

Hi Arto,
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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Ironmachine » 17 Mar 2014 14:52

IIRC, the white swastika inside the black circle was a personal emblem of Harro Harder, who flied both the He-51 2-64 and the He-112 8-2.

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Maxschnauzer » 18 Mar 2014 00:26

Good stuff! Here's the man himself:
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11 victories, according to the above site.
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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Sergio Uno » 27 Mar 2014 15:21

Ironmachine wrote:IIRC, the white swastika inside the black circle was a personal emblem of Harro Harder, who flied both the He-51 2-64 and the He-112 8-2.


That's correct, Luftwaffe Colours Vol. 1, Section 2 by Mombeek, Smith, and Creek has photos of the both.

The Spanish Republican Aces by Rafael Permuy López credits Harder with shooting down Tte. Andrés Rodríguez Panadero on 28 September 1937 (p. 34). I wonder if any additional details are available about that encounter apart from the 6th Region Area Operations Records entry?

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Sturm78 » 08 Apr 2014 10:25

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this plane ?

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby AVV » 08 Apr 2014 10:46

Hello!
Sturm78 wrote:Can somebody identify this plane ?

I think Polish RWD-13.

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Ironmachine » 08 Apr 2014 12:50

Yes, 30-4 was a RWD-13.

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Maxschnauzer » 08 Apr 2014 23:57

The Gabbiano Cant Z.501, Numbers 62-8, 62-9 and 62-? Source http://www.ww2aircraft.net/. Does anyone know the story behind the third pic?
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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Ironmachine » 09 Apr 2014 09:15

Maxschnauzer wrote:Does anyone know the story behind the third pic?

On 11 February 1938 there was a strong gale over the Pollensa base, with winds of up to 120 km/h. Some of the planes there were destroyed or turned over, like the one in that photo.

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Sturm78 » 09 Apr 2014 09:57

Aleks wrote
I think Polish RWD-13.


Ironmachine wrote
Yes, 30-4 was a RWD-13.


Thank you very much for your help, Aleks and Ironmachine

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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Maxschnauzer » 10 Apr 2014 02:25

Ironmachine wrote:
Maxschnauzer wrote:Does anyone know the story behind the third pic?

On 11 February 1938 there was a strong gale over the Pollensa base, with winds of up to 120 km/h. Some of the planes there were destroyed or turned over, like the one in that photo.

Thanks, Ironmachine. Being overturned would explain the apparent lack of structural damage. I seem to remember reading about one of these aircraft being severely damaged when it clipped a ship's mast with a wing . Can you confirm that incident?
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Re: Photos of Axis airplanes in Spain

Postby Ironmachine » 10 Apr 2014 21:05

Yes, 62-1, a Z.501 of the 2-G-62 Group, based at Pollensa, struck the mast of a freighter while taking off on 1 February 1937 and crashed. The two pilots were killed and the other two crew members were injured.


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