Earlier published works still viable?

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Earlier published works still viable?

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Post by Felix C » 21 Sep 2013, 23:58

Have the opportunity to purchase from an estate sale a number of works from the following authors:

Jose Luis Alcofar Nassaes- Spansky, Asesores Soveitices, Fuerzas Navales Espanolas y Italianas, CTV, and the one dealing with Aviacion Nacional. These are still useful or sadly dated?

Cierva, Historia Ilustrada de la Guerra Civil Espanola 2vols

Jose Luis Romero, Tres Dias en Julio - 3vols

Bande, 100 ultimas dias de la Republica

Koltsov, Diario de la guerra de España

Larrazabale Intervención extranjera en la Guerra de España
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Post by fredleander » 22 Sep 2013, 12:40

Felix C wrote:Have the opportunity to purchase from an estate sale a number of works from the following authors:

Jose Luis Alcofar Nassaes- Spansky, Asesores Soveitices, Fuerzas Navales Espanolas y Italianas, CTV, and the one dealing with Aviacion Nacional. These are still useful or sadly dated?

Cierva, Historia Ilustrada de la Guerra Civil Espanola 2vols

Jose Luis Romero, Tres Dias en Julio - 3vols

Bande, 100 ultimas dias de la Republica

Koltsov, Diario de la guerra de España
If I was fluent in Spanish I would buy them all... :D ..

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River Wide, Ocean Deep - a book about Operation Sealion:
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Post by Felix C » 22 Sep 2013, 13:32

Bless you Fred. I am of the same mindset (My family is Spanish and it my primary language at home) but it has been about 40years +/-since the original publication. Hence the question.

You know, I would love to read about the SCW in my mom's home town of Trefacio. I heard quite a few stories when I last visited in 2005. Plenty of grudges were resolved back and forth depending on how occupied the town. I wonder any males were left to procreate afterwards!

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Post by fredleander » 28 Sep 2013, 16:47

Felix C wrote:You know, I would love to read about the SCW in my mom's home town of Trefacio. I heard quite a few stories when I last visited in 2005. Plenty of grudges were resolved back and forth depending on how occupied the town. I wonder any males were left to procreate afterwards!
I understand your feelings, I have a streak of the same in me. While the Spanish Civil War as such is very interesting I have an added interest in that my father was involved as his ship was bombed in Valencia. He also told me about an incident when they were interned in Ceuta but got away because a Dutch cruiser entered the port to take out a couple of Dutch merchants also interned.

As a boy I remember well a couple of his friends from that time who frequently came to visit our home. The stories they told between them!

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Post by Ironmachine » 28 Sep 2013, 17:16

fredleander wrote:...a Dutch cruiser entered the port to take out a couple of Dutch merchants also interned.
Do you know more details about this incident? Perhaps the names of the ships? It certainly does sound quite strange...

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Post by Ironmachine » 28 Sep 2013, 17:25

Felix C wrote:You know, I would love to read about the SCW in my mom's home town of Trefacio.
The Trefacio in the province of Zamora?

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Post by Felix C » 28 Sep 2013, 17:35

Yes, next to Lago de Sanabria. I visited in 2005 and there were a number of people still alive who remembered those years. I was told a few stores what occurred.

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Post by fredleander » 28 Sep 2013, 17:43

Ironmachine wrote:
fredleander wrote:...a Dutch cruiser entered the port to take out a couple of Dutch merchants also interned.
Do you know more details about this incident? Perhaps the names of the ships? It certainly does sound quite strange...
No, but I know the Dutch cruiser Java operated around Spain during the SCW. I believe the name of my father's ship was M/S Segovia. It could be another ship from the same shipowner - Fred Olsen. I believe there were some shifting of crews. It was later damaged in Valencia when a bomb went through the funnel of a neighbouring ship. About the Dutch merchants I do not know.

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Post by Ironmachine » 28 Sep 2013, 20:48

fredleander wrote:No, but I know the Dutch cruiser Java operated around Spain during the SCW
Yes, that I already knew. But the story of her going to Ceuta to take out a couple of Dutch merchants interned there is something new to me, and I said before it sounds quite strange.

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Post by fredleander » 28 Sep 2013, 23:32

Ironmachine wrote:
fredleander wrote:No, but I know the Dutch cruiser Java operated around Spain during the SCW
Yes, that I already knew. But the story of her going to Ceuta to take out a couple of Dutch merchants interned there is something new to me, and I said before it sounds quite strange.
Sorry, I can't help you with that.... :) ...

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Post by Felix C » 28 Sep 2013, 23:40

I think to a non-naval minded person a dd could appear as a cruiser. I cannot tell the difference in modern warships between a DDG, Aegis cruiser,etc I suppose the same is feasible in the era.

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Post by Ironmachine » 29 Sep 2013, 08:04

Yes, but supposedly the "witness" was a sailor. Anyway, the "cruiser" is not the only strange thing in this story for me.
By the way, anybody knows which (if any) dutch destroyers operated around Spain during the SCW?

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Post by fredleander » 29 Sep 2013, 11:18

Ironmachine wrote:Yes, but supposedly the "witness" was a sailor. Anyway, the "cruiser" is not the only strange thing in this story for me.
By the way, anybody knows which (if any) dutch destroyers operated around Spain during the SCW?
The supposed witness was actually my father serving as an engineer on the Norwegian merchant in question. Oh, yes - I would not be very surprised if he, or his fellow crew members, mistook any naval vessel between a sloop and a battleship knowing how supposedly trained military air and naval observers of the period often showed such incapabilities.

That said, it was not an uncommon event for Norwegian sailors or ships to escape from internment. During WW2 approximately 50% of the crews did. The classic story is that of M/S Lidvard interned by the French in Dakar. Lidvard later featured in a Norwegian movie covering this incident - "Flukten fra Dakar". As with most of the post-war Norwegian movies many of the original members in the various incidents portrayed participated in the movie. I remember well my father taking me to see it in the beginning of the fifties.

However, that escape was based purely on the initiative of the ship's company itself.

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Post by Felix C » 29 Sep 2013, 14:07

I went ahead and purchased all of the books as they were a bundle bargain. I may be missing for a few months as I focus on reading these and not here.

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Post by fredleander » 29 Sep 2013, 14:34

Felix C wrote:I went ahead and purchased all of the books as they were a bundle bargain. I may be missing for a few months as I focus on reading these and not here.
Happy reading!

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River Wide, Ocean Deep - a book about Operation Sealion:
https://www.fredleander.com
Saving MacArthur - an eight-book series on the Pacific War:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D3 ... rw_dp_labf

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