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Taiwan denies the crash that reportedly killed Subhas Bose

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Post by August » 19 Sep 2003, 10:44

No wonder why Indian Govt would not go to Taiwan to seek facts of the matter.

Taiwan Government denies the crash that reportedly killed Subhas Bose

Calcutta, Sep 16 (UNI) The issue of mysterious disappearance of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose has assumed a new dimension following the denial by the Taiwan Ministry of Transport and Communications and the Mayor of Taipei of any air crash in Taihoku Air Base between August and October 1945.

This was stated here today by Mr Justice M N Mukherjee, Chairman of the one man Justice Mukherjee Commission of Inquiry into the alleged disappearance of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose.

Mr Justice Mukherjee was speaking to newspersons after holding a hearing where only three of the seven persons summoned, appeared to throw some further light on the vexed issue.

Agreeing that the denial of the Taiwan government, with whom India does not have any diplomatic relations, was a new revelation to the Commission, Mr Justice Mukherjee said it, however, came after the Commission on the basis of a newspaper report had sought its confirmation.

Incidentally, Mr Justice Mukherjee said the Commission had worked on the basis of an e-mail sent by both the Taiwan ministry of Transport and Communications and the Mayor of Taipei to a Delhi-based journalist informing him that they had ''no official record'' of any air crash in Taihoku between August and Ocober 1945, in which Netaji was claimed to have died.

The same e-mail was also sent to the Commission last week after we had asked for it, he said.

In the absence of India having any diplomatic relations with Taiwan, the Commission had to move independently to seek the e-mail and other explanations, Mr Justice Mukherjee said, adding that they had already sought some more ''documentary evidences'' from the Taiwan government, particularly from their Transport and Communications ministry and the Taipei Mayor's office, to be ''doubly sure'' of the new revelation.

If it was true it would open a new chapter in the entire claim of Netaji's death following the August 1945 air crash, Mr Justice Mukherjee said.

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Post by August » 06 Nov 2003, 06:54

95 people see this story and not one wonders that if there was no plane crash, how could Bose have died? :(


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Post by John W » 07 Jan 2004, 09:04

Ok, assuming he DIDN'T die in an air crash:

- Why haven't we heard a SINGLE thing about hime hence?
- Even if he is alive, of what purpose is it now?

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Post by August » 09 Jan 2004, 05:42

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I am glad that you have not chosen to ignore this imp news. There was no plane crash, and it is known to Govt of India and that's why the commission is not allowed to visit Taiwan on flimsy ground.

Much has been heard about Bose ever since. e.g. The commission recently asked govt on a basis of a secret file what action the govt took on the news that Bose was in Siberia. This was in late 1950s. They clammed up in answer. Every time the commission asks the govt something serious, they shut up. Commission has already pointed out systematic destruction of files on Bose.

I am no spokesperson for the commission, but detailing what all numerous Allied intelligence noted would be cumbersome. Let's forget all that and concentrate on the DNA test on the "ashes" of Bose. Well, govt is dragging its feet on that as well.

If it gets established that Bose actually escaped to Russia (as he did) there will a number of complications for a number of countries. And yes, the legacy of some top Indian leaders will be in spot. Hence, the Govt officials have been saying in private that getting the truth out will not do any good to the country. They say we must forget what happened in the past. Forget, my ass. this man fought for us. It will be a sin to forget him. this year is crucial and commission will be out with the findings.

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Post by August » 09 Jan 2004, 07:15

Ever heard of Muthuramlingam Thevar? Or B N Mullick?!

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Post by John W » 09 Jan 2004, 09:07

Never heard of those two charecters.

It is well known that Bose disgareed with most leaders of the Congress. Why should this 'damage' reputations?

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Post by August » 09 Jan 2004, 11:01

:) Mullick created and headed India's spy agency all the time Nehru was boss. A record. He deposed before Khosla Commission in 1972. There are some 6,000 pages of material, comprising intelligence reports, witnesses' accounts etc, from which Khosla produced his 130-page report that said Bose died. This material is not available in anywhere. If you get to browse through these pages, you will call the report bullshit.

Both British intelligence and several people in India alleged that top Indian leaders knew of Bose's existence in Russia. It was therefore expected of them to make enquiries with the Russians after independence and tell the country the truth. The records show that despite pressure Nehru did not make any efforts to find out what happened to Bose. In common parlance this is called backstabbing. The efforts hoever were secretly and their reports were destroyed.

What I can add to that is the some credible claims have been made in past both by Indians and Russians to the effect that Bose was indeed in Siberia.

If this scenario turns out to be true, it will show these leaders to be traitors and shake up Indian history and strain relations with some countries. It will also cause lot of ill will in India society as Congress party is still very powerful and supportes of Nehru-Gandhi are know to be ruthless in case someone tries to lower them in public esteem. So any right thinking minister or bureaucrat will not allow this information not to come out until the time the issue has completly died out. this is called national interest.

The Mukherjee commission has been denied access to Govt files on the grounds of "national security" and "foreign relations". the UK govt says they wont release certain files until 2021. All this is not making news in India becoz media is obsessed with Laloo and Rabri. U know these characters? Those who chase puerile stories cannot makes sense of reports filed by Counter Intelligece Corps, Combined Service Detailed Interrogation Centre, Intelligence Assault Unit etc even if they are shown to them. Since people are in the dark, they are not raising stink. but one the commission says something, the media will lap it up and then the matter will go to people. India is much democratic now. And for good measure, the Congress is not in power as was the case during Shah Nawaz and Khosla panels' work.

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Post by John W » 09 Jan 2004, 11:08

Thing is, knowing India and it's people [:roll:], this issue won't be a "stink" unless it is shown as one to cause one. Then there will be an outcry for sure, but within a month it will be back to Tendulkar, Amitabh and Ayodhya!

Who cries about the Bombay Blasts? Who remembers the fallen from our four wars? Who raises the 'stink' about the poor treatment meted out to soldiers? Corruption? Narmada Bachao ? Fodder scam? Telefone scam? Sukh Ram?

The list of "stinker" stories is endless. What is the nateeja (result) ?

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Post by August » 10 Jan 2004, 06:30

There are a number of ifs and buts. it all depends how much comes out. otherwise, like you say, "within a month it will be back to Tendulkar, Amitabh". Yes, it will be like that.

Nobody would like be a hostage to the past. All that truth-seeking people would want is to make amends and move on with the life. Let's find out what happened to Bose for once and all and incorporate facts in history books. Story ends.

btw, wud you know anything about a crash in India in 60s which killed many top ranking generals?

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Post by John W » 12 Jan 2004, 00:35

August wrote:There are a number of ifs and buts. it all depends how much comes out. otherwise, like you say, "within a month it will be back to Tendulkar, Amitabh". Yes, it will be like that.
Makes one wanna puke doesn't it?! :x
August wrote:Nobody would like be a hostage to the past. All that truth-seeking people would want is to make amends and move on with the life. Let's find out what happened to Bose for once and all and incorporate facts in history books. Story ends.
Fair enough
August wrote:btw, wud you know anything about a crash in India in 60s which killed many top ranking generals?
No idea! :?

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Post by August » 12 Jan 2004, 10:31

for the time being i shall not throw up. Sincere efforts are on to get to the truth. God willing on this score (Bose mystery) this will be a defining year.

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Post by Simon Gunson » 18 Apr 2005, 11:38

August assuming you are correct what value did Bose have for the Soviets and do the rumours suggest he was a prisoner of the Russians or a guest ?

If this story is correct then there must be a reason why everbody had kept the silence. What did Bose know that kept him safe in seclusion ?

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Post by John W » 24 May 2005, 07:41

Simon Gunson wrote:What did Bose know that kept him safe in seclusion ?
I would wager that it had some damning evidence in the name of someone like Nehru I reckon...

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PS: I've been doing some reading of my own - puerly military. And the way Nehru handled the Indo-China war makes my blood boil - literally. I am now more than curious in reading for what else Nehru might have bungled in the past... :|

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