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Need help with translating WW1, Inter-War or WW2 related documents or information?
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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 18 Dec 2017 21:12

The work you did was very beautiful. I think the signature is correct. Just I think. Because there is no concrete evidence and information. Could you do the same work again on the signature I uploaded? I found this signature on the internet. It is in the original museum and is original. Could you put my signature on this signature. Could it be that the back of the postcard says something other than Remmer? Could it be another name, not Remmer? It's a very enjoyable conversation. Thank you a thousand times for your help.
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Re: Help me

Postby Max » 19 Dec 2017 06:58

Ataturk Signature 2.jpg

Your new signature is in white
I have lined up the A and the cross stroke of the two letter t.
They are very close.
Whoever signed the postcard has certainly practiced writing the signature.

My personal signature is never the same way twice in a row. Is anyone's ?

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Postby GregSingh » 19 Dec 2017 07:17

If you own this postcard it's easy to spot if signature is written on it or printed together with the rest of the picture.
To me it does look like printed signature (part of the postcard), not signed later.

Perhaps one of the bunch of some kind of anniversary, and text on the other side has nothing to do with a signature.
Handed over to somebody, not posted, as there is no address and post stamp.
Just my guesses...

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Re: Help me

Postby Waleed Y. Majeed » 19 Dec 2017 09:16

If printed, and you want to obtain the contone effect (black to gray to almost transparent) you would need to rasterize the signature. Easy to check if it is printed (not stamped!). Use a magnifying glass and see if the black has small dots where it is less black, like this image
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It's an eye if in doubt ;)
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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 19 Dec 2017 16:03

I studied it carefully with a magnifying glass. not signature printing. I added new pictures. I expect your help to prove that the signature is original. Do you think this signature is original? Could it be imitation? The sticky tape on the back proves that it was removed from the album. I do not think it's a remmer. He writes something else. I expect all your help. I will send a surprise gift to the person who finds concrete evidence in this regard. :)
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Postby Waleed Y. Majeed » 19 Dec 2017 17:48

I would agree, not printed or stamped. It looks very much like it's handwritten. But! I will not confirm it to be or not to be (Shakespeare's or) that of Atatürk. For that you would need an expert. Is there any chance at all you could have it checked at a museum or a graphology expert? He/she would be able to see if it has the same small differences in how it was written. Where Atatürk applied pressure etc. A little side note which came to me... Wonder if he wrote from left to right or from rift to left as he must also have written in the turkish/arabic fashion, This is what an expert would know.
Sorry can't be of much more help here.
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Postby Kaltenegger » 20 Dec 2017 19:13

Text on Carta Postale: “ Zwei Karten, die mit mir zusammen im Wa ..??.. r waren.
Gruß Bruno“
Two Cards ,that were together with me in ..???.
Greeting Bruno.

Early Postcards in Austria and Germany were
typical written on the frontside.

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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 21 Dec 2017 19:30

Bruno Taut and Franz Hillinger worked together with 1937-1938. Bruno Taut is a famous German architect. He came to Turkey to escape from Germany. He worked in Ankara. Could it be that Franz Hillinger signed this postcard Ataturk and gave it to Bruno Taut? When Bruno Taut Atatürk died, he made a coffin arrangement. One month later Bruno Taut died. Can we find a handwriting belonging to Franz and Bruno? Could the handwriting behind the postcard belong to these two people? They may have identified Bruno and Franz Atatürk. Bruno and Franz worked in Ankara. (1937-1938)

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Postby Waleed Y. Majeed » 21 Dec 2017 21:12

Hello Again! Can I call you Kamil?
Well, interesting about Bruno Taut and other jewish refugees in Turkey. I did not know this, thanks. So you are looking for Bruno's handwriting ;) Here is a link which has a whole page of it. Hope it can help you. See page 12!
http://jfa.arch.metu.edu.tr/archive/025 ... /15-36.pdf
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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 21 Dec 2017 21:48

Of course you can call it Kamil. Thank you for your reply and research. I've just found out what you're talking about. Franz is Bruno's assistant. Franz completed his projects after Bruno was killed. I think Franz might have written to Bruno. We need to find our Franz handwriting.

I can help if you have a request from Turkey happily for everyone.

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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 25 Dec 2017 11:23

I sent a postcard to Franz Hillinger's (Edith Hillinger) daughter. For the confirmation of the article. Just hope. I would like to share that I enjoyed this research. Thanks to everyone who gave me a job.

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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 26 Dec 2017 17:25

Edith Hillinger answered. The handwriting is not Franz Hillinger. He said that Franz Hillinger worked at Ataturk's Catafalque. He said it might be Bruno Taut's writing. I do not know what can I do. I'm waiting for your help.

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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 12 May 2018 18:33

Friends. I'm desperate. I look forward to your comments on the article. I have all kinds of help.

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Re: Help me

Postby StickShaker » 13 May 2018 22:15

the counterfeiters definitely see kamikaze coming...

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Re: Help me

Postby kamilkaze » 17 May 2018 19:25

StickShaker wrote:the counterfeiters definitely see kamikaze coming...

What do you mean . I do not understand. You're insulting. Please explain. You can't blame me. I just want help.


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