Kette und Arbe German>English

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Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by jbaum » 06 Jun 2013 16:37

I'm translating the 1913 Schwarzlose operator manual and it refers to the drain plug at the rear of the water jacket.

Rückwarts befindet sich das durch die Füllochschraube samt Kette und Arbe verschklossene Fülloch.

What is an "Arbe"? 21 German/English dictionaries and not one of them has it.

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by history1 » 07 Jun 2013 15:04

Are you sure it´s not a reading error or a typo, John?
I never heard this word.

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by jbaum » 07 Jun 2013 17:16

I can not be certain it is not a mistake in the original book. I have found a few other mistakes, but this word I do not know.

I guess I will have to find someone with the gun so that I can see what it could be.

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by jbaum » 10 Jun 2013 03:14

Today I found a manual from 1936 for the Schwarzlose, and it refers to the water fill screw as having a "Kettchen und ein Arbe". It is therefore not an error.

Also, I have found Arbe here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Oqk6AA ... 22&f=false

I still don't know what an Arbe is, but I know someone who has a Schwarzlose, and will have them check.
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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by Moltke d. J. » 15 Jun 2013 05:25

I hate to tell you that I don't got a clue what "Arbe" really means. However, in your link it's always associated with "Kette" = chain.
Hope this helps.

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by jbaum » 24 Jun 2013 01:03

I had a friend take a picture of "Ketten und Arbe" on a Schwarzlose mount.

I think the picture narrows it down to Arbe being either the S-shaped hook, or the round eye (eyelet) that the S-hook is attached to.

Any opinions would be welcome.

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by Moltke d. J. » 24 Jun 2013 03:12

it might also be a split pin or something like that:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_pin. Noticed the pin or cotter or whatever the correct t.t. probably atttached to the other end of the chain?

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by jbaum » 24 Jun 2013 14:41

The cotter key at the other end of the chain is referred to separately. i.e. That's not an arbe.

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by Saratim2021 » 08 Jan 2021 15:16

If you Google translate “arbe” it could have two meanings. First Kettchen und ein Arbe is roughly translated as the /’chain and a work”. In some dictionaries, I found that arbe could be the cotter pin - a narrow nail with a round eye or a long S-hook on one end. Hope so this might help you out.

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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by jbaum » 08 Jan 2021 17:06

I have to believe that the arbe is whatever is on the end of the chain to attach it to whatever it gets attached to on the gun/lafette. I have German/English dictionaries back to 1848, and none of them has a match to what it is.
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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by danebrog » 10 Jan 2021 23:19

ARBE is an old and very uncommon word for SEAL or PLUG
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Re: Kette und Arbe German>English

Post by jbaum » 11 Jan 2021 00:45

Thank you,

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