Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
- Jeff Leach
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Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
Is 'Widerstandsnest' - strong point and 'Stützpunkt' - support point
it won't surprise me if the above is incorrect. 'Stützpunkt' is a lot more common in German logistic documents.
the example text
"Feuerschlag der beiden Art. Gruppen auf feindl. Widerstandsnester und Stützpunkte. gem Anforderung des Führers der Nahkampfgruppe."
Arko 110, Artilleriebefehl Nr. 5, 29 June 1941
it won't surprise me if the above is incorrect. 'Stützpunkt' is a lot more common in German logistic documents.
the example text
"Feuerschlag der beiden Art. Gruppen auf feindl. Widerstandsnester und Stützpunkte. gem Anforderung des Führers der Nahkampfgruppe."
Arko 110, Artilleriebefehl Nr. 5, 29 June 1941
Re: Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
I've been looking for that... Do you have a reference (NARA-roll etc)?jopaerya wrote:I hope that this helps ?
Re: Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
Weiderstand nest = defence post manned by between a section and a platoon
Sutzpunkt = strong point/ support point typically a platoon + or company task.
In this context any literal translation of Stuetz as "support" should be informed of the historic term "point of support" as a translation of the French term Point d'appui used in earlier centuries to descript strong positions in front of a line of battle. Thus the chateau of Hougoumont was a Point d'appui for Wellington;s defence at Waterloo.
Sutzpunkt = strong point/ support point typically a platoon + or company task.
In this context any literal translation of Stuetz as "support" should be informed of the historic term "point of support" as a translation of the French term Point d'appui used in earlier centuries to descript strong positions in front of a line of battle. Thus the chateau of Hougoumont was a Point d'appui for Wellington;s defence at Waterloo.
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Re: Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
Widerstansnest = Manned by one, two or three man
Stutzpunkt = consist in several Widerstandneste together.
Kindly regards
Prosper
Stutzpunkt = consist in several Widerstandneste together.
Kindly regards
Prosper
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Re: Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
Thanks, everyone
Would it be possible to post the rest of the Begriffsbestimmungen?
Would it be possible to post the rest of the Begriffsbestimmungen?
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@ Natter this is Bundesarchive document
@ Jeff above the Stützpunktgruppe was Verteidigungsbereich and as last Festung
@ Jeff above the Stützpunktgruppe was Verteidigungsbereich and as last Festung
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Ok. You don't know the archive-reference or PG-number?jopaerya wrote:@ Natter this is Bundesarchive document
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Several documents from OKH, General der Pioniere und Festungen are at http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org, some titles:
Merkblatt "Flußtreibminen"
Merkblatt "Bildheft Neuzeitlicher Stellungsbau"
Mitteilungsblätter für Pioniere
Feststellungen über Sonderheiten der russischen Feldbefestigungen
Anregungen für den Ausbau von Stellungen an der Ostfront
Anweisungen über Minenmeldungen, Minenpläne und Minenkarten
Neue Formen von Feldbefestigungsanlagen
Merkblatt "Flußtreibminen"
Merkblatt "Bildheft Neuzeitlicher Stellungsbau"
Mitteilungsblätter für Pioniere
Feststellungen über Sonderheiten der russischen Feldbefestigungen
Anregungen für den Ausbau von Stellungen an der Ostfront
Anweisungen über Minenmeldungen, Minenpläne und Minenkarten
Neue Formen von Feldbefestigungsanlagen
Re: Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
From the file:Prosper Vandenbroucke wrote:Widerstan[]snest = Manned by one, two or three man
Stutzpunkt = consist in several Widerstand[]neste[] together.
Kindly regards
Prosper
Widerstandsnest:
A pocket of defense is a small, closed in itself, defensive position. The crew is build by one to three groups [annotation: a group is 8-12 men] with or without heavy arms.
Stützpunkt:
A base is build by several pockets of defense. Its crew is build from the crews of the pockets of defense and an eventually reserve/standby and has at least platoon to company strenght with heavy arms. [...]
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Re: Widerstandsnest und Stützpunkt
One more definition set, almost similar to descriptions posted by Jos.
Source: http://tiny.pl/g47wx
Source: http://tiny.pl/g47wx