Need help with Russian unit reports

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Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by Biber » 17 May 2018 16:54

I'd appreciate it if someone would be able and willing to give me a translation of the attached reports. I am interested in the contents going forward from the 14 of October 1943, and the third page which should be for the 15th.

I sincerely appreciate any help I can get with this.

Now that I can see how the images posted, they are in reverse order
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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by GregSingh » 18 May 2018 00:20

What exactly are you looking for? These reports just mention names of several small Ukrainian villages and how they were liberated.
First page describes actions of 148 RD (507, 654 RR) in the area not far from Chernobyl.
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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by Biber » 18 May 2018 13:34

Exactly, that's what I'm looking for. While I'd be interested to get a translation of each in their entirety, my interest is with regard to a small village named Nagarcy (or something to that effect).

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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by GregSingh » 19 May 2018 09:11

From the middle page:

At 14:40 60 enemy bombers conducted bombardment of area of Nagortsy and river crossings of 8th and 148th rifle divisions.
At 16:30 the same number of planes conducted second raid on the same areas.
At 17:00 enemy infantry supported by tanks and artillery captured village Nagortsy and right bank of Pripyat river cutting off our regiment and remaining parts of 8th and 148th rifle divisions from river crossings. Some enemy forces continued attack towards SE edge of forest.

I found this map showing German attack on Nagortsy (Нагорцы).
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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by Biber » 19 May 2018 15:29

Thank you, I have that map and am quite fascinated by it. Any chance of getting the rest of the report?

As some may know, I am working on fleshing out the Violins of Hope story of Motele who "blew up" a German officer's club in Ovruch. The story was preserved by Moshe Gildenman who was a partisan turned Red Army officer. Gildenman's biography of Motele tells of him convincing the authorities to let him accompany Gildenman when he went into the Red army in September/October of '43. Nagorcy is where Gildenman says Motele died on Oct 14th while trying to warn Soviet officers of encroaching Germans. Gildenman received a medal for his actions that day, so I've been trying to get a picture as to what happended that day. I was encouraged that the war memorial there still exist despite the town having been overtaken by the Chernobyl reactor site and north cooling pond. The memorial is actually near the abandoned fishery on the north end of the cooling ponds. I'd be interested to learn if there a civilian cemetery is still extant there and if there may be a picture or two floating around that might show some names..

I know finding Motele is a long shot (I have certain doubts about the story to begin with) but you never know until you look and I'm not ready to give up yet.

Thanks for everyone's help. I'd still like to get a translation of the rest of the report if I could.

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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by Biber » 09 Jan 2021 04:00

Returning to this, I have a renewed interest in getting a complete translation of the report given above (2nd and 3rd pages above). Can anyone please help me?

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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by Biber » 10 Jan 2021 16:55

Anyone? I just need the information not something to quote. Also the 2nd and 3rd paged above are in reversed order.

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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by GregSingh » 11 Jan 2021 02:32

I'm guessing top half of the scan 61.jpg describes unsuccessful attempt of Soviet 654 rifle regiment to capture village of Karpilovka on the 13th of October 1943. See the map.

Roughly it goes like:
...moved forward and in 40? minutes broke into NW outskirts of village Karpilovka.
When regiment was reaching village Karpilovka, enemy opened machine gun and artillery flanking fire. Because of inactivity of nearby units, enemy concentrated all fire on our regiment. Lack of support from nearby units and enemy counterattack with tank support caused regiment to abandon NW outskirts of Karpilovka and withdrawal to new position.
Enemy loses for the day (24h) - eliminated up to 150 soldiers, 3 machine guns, 2 mortars.
Regiment's losses for the day (24h) - up to 60 wounded
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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by Biber » 11 Jan 2021 02:35

Thanks Greg, i appreciate it very much.

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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by GregSingh » 11 Jan 2021 05:24

Bottom half of 61.jpg scan:
14th October 1943.
From 9:00 654th rifle regiment supported by two batteries 76mm guns from 1st battalion of 326th artillery regiment was ordered: to hold causeway? Karpilovka - Novoshepelichi 1km NW of Karpilovka and defend eastern edge of forest NW of Karpilovka, not to give any chances to enemy to take hills 117.6 and 118.5 and to reach river Pripyat.
On the right - 507 RR, on the left 310 RR.
From 20:00 regiment needed support from 492 motorised? battalion and 10 tanks from 129th tank brigade.
Up to 20:00 regiment supposed to defend all assigned positions by itself.
From its structure, regiment lost 2nd rifle battalion...
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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by Biber » 11 Jan 2021 13:39

Is there a reference to the 151st rifle regiment?

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Re: Need help with Russian unit reports

Post by GregSingh » 12 Jan 2021 00:24

In the 62.jpg scan (which is a continuation of action on 14th of October) just below my earlier translation from 2018, we can read:
At 17:40 151th rifle regiment from 8th rifle division couldn't hold its positions under heavy enemy pressure and withdrew to the forest in NW direction.
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