German Word Translation

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German Word Translation

Post by Zirran » 14 Aug 2021 13:34

Hey guys.

I'm trying to find a translation for the word "Walter/Walterin", especially when it is used in other words such as Blockwalter, Reichswalters, Gebietswalter etc.

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Re: German Word Translation

Post by GregSingh » 16 Aug 2021 11:04

I would say "administrator".
I think it's from old Waltung = to govern / administer / rule.

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Re: German Word Translation

Post by Zirran » 16 Aug 2021 15:44

Thank you GregSingh, that is most helpful.

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Re: German Word Translation

Post by Hans1906 » 16 Aug 2021 15:52

Zirran,

a "Blockwart" / "Blockleiter" was something like a simple janitor, usually a tight NSDAP member, who more or less secretly supervised the entire neighborhood.

Blockleiter https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockleiter

This perfidious system of total surveillance of the neighborhood, was adopted 1:1 decades later by the red-coated Nazis in the former DDR.

The same methods, slander, pissing off, wiretapping, denunciation, but on a much higher level...

Very nasty topic, very typical for many German "characters", even today... 8O


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Re: German Word Translation

Post by GregSingh » 17 Aug 2021 02:53

This is a translation help section of the Forum, so let's help translating. Question was about ...walter, not ...wart or ...leiter.

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Re: German Word Translation

Post by Hohlladung » 17 Aug 2021 12:21

Hi Zirran,

This is very confusing, there must be a typo. Why don't you show the whole sentence?

There is no German word like "Gebietswalter". My guess is that you mean "Verwalter"?

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Re: German Word Translation

Post by GregSingh » 18 Aug 2021 02:39

There was a quite complex structure for administering technical schools and settlements in some areas with large mining industry presence (all under Reichsarbeitsministerium). After Fritz Todt (Reichswalter) death, Albert Speer simplified it.

Some examples:

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Waltung hardly appears in any German on-line dictionary.
One of the examples I could find was in the Bible! But even there it was later replaced by regiere.
16 Gott machte die zwei großen Leuchten, die größre Leuchte zur Waltung des Tags und die kleinre Leuchte zur Waltung der Nacht, und die Sterne.

16 Und Gott machte zwei große Lichter: ein großes Licht, das den Tag regiere, und ein kleines Licht, das die Nacht regiere, dazu auch Sterne.
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Re: German Word Translation

Post by Hohlladung » 18 Aug 2021 09:39

Good find Greg,

Never read something like this before, so I think it is some position, not a rank, within the NSDAP-Organisation (DAF?).

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Re: German Word Translation

Post by Hans1906 » 18 Aug 2021 10:35

Moin Armin,

a German phrase that I'm sure you're familiar with is: "Das walte Hugo!".

Woher kommt die Redewendung „Das walte Hugo“ und was bedeutet sie? https://www.cosmiq.de/qa/show/297520/Wo ... alte-Hugo/
The saying means as much as: "God decides about it" / "That is certain"! Mainly in the Ruhr area he is still common and customary today. The saying fits in situations when you are one hundred percent sure of something! Or you believe, something develops with certainty in an expected direction. In other words: Something is "dead certain".
Sorry for the little digression. :wink:


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Re: German Word Translation

Post by Zirran » 18 Aug 2021 17:59

Hey guys.

For context, i've been translating the Reichsorganisationsbuch 1943, I found Walter in several places in the book.

Here's one example under "Personalunterlagen fur Politische Leiter sind":

"Anträge auf Ernennung, Beurlaubung, Versetzung und Enthebung für Politische Leiter, Walter und Warte sowie NSF.-Leiterinnen und Walterinnen in den angeschlossenen Verbänden werden über die jeweiligen Personalabteilungen dieser Verbände umgehend an die für die Erledigung der Anträge zuständigen Personalämter weitergeleitet."

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Re: German Word Translation

Post by Hans1906 » 18 Aug 2021 19:03

Zirran,

The above nitpicking makes no difference, an "XXX-walter", or "(Ver)walter /Administrator" stood, and stands for a person in an elevated position, as long as you shake on it too.


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Re: German Word Translation

Post by kelseyradley » 21 Aug 2023 03:22

Hello, guys

I've been translating the Reichsorganisationsbuch 1943, and I came across Walter in various places.

Here is one illustration under "Personnel records for Political Leaders are":

Applications for appointment, leaves of absence, transfers, and dismissals of political leaders, Walter and Warden, as well as NSF leaders, are immediately forwarded to the personnel offices responsible for processing the applications via the relevant personnel departments of these associations. 
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