For polish-speaking members

[Starinov]

To whom it may come, Greeting:

Can anybody tell me how to translate into polish terms like TO&E and Order of Battle?

Thanks

[Docent P]

I can suggest struktury organizcyjne wojsk for TOE. You may also try sending a PM to Musashi.

[Musashi]

I can suggest struktury organizcyjne wojsk for TOE. You may also try sending a PM to Musashi.

Yes, he can. However I can propose it him, not you
@Starinov
I don't understand what is TO&E. Please write me full phrase. Its hard to translate Order of Battle. Simply give me a link to see what it is exactly. Is it a structure and organisation of units?

[David C. Clarke]

Table of Organization and Equipment (TO&E).

Best Regards, David

[Starinov]

Its hard to translate Order of Battle. Simply give me a link to see what it is exactly.

Musashi, here it is: http://www.dasreich.ca:/orders.html

[Ogorek]

Starinov....

I recall that for OB, the old, WW II Poles used the French term, Ordre d' Batale (or however you spell it in French).

For TOE, the most common terms I run into from the old days are "Sklad" followed by either "Etatowe Stan", "Ekipowanie" or "Bron i Sprzet"

Good question, and I hope this helps....

Ogorek

[Musashi]

So TOE would be Tabela organizacji i wyposa¿enia (wojsk)
OoB would be something very similar - Sk³ad i wyposa¿enie (wojsk)
or Organizacja i wyposa¿enie (wojsk)
Pozdrowienia,
Krzysiek

[Musashi]

"Etatowe Stan" - Ogorek

Do you mean Stany etatowe?

"Ekipowanie" -

I don't know such a word at all. There is no such word in Polish, I am completely sure. I know Ekwipunek
Pozdrowienia,
Krzysiek

[Starinov]

Thanks a lot guys

Dzieki bardzo za odpowiedzi...

[Docent P]

And a question about the topic - what is the difference between "pulk" and "regiment"?

And when the point after the number of unit is necessary?

[Eryk]

Hi Docent.
I'm new here but I think I can help you.

And a question about the topic - what is the difference between "pulk" and "regiment"?

There's no difference between 'pu³k' and 'regiment'. It' means the same, but word 'pulk' has Polish roots (or maybe Russian ) and 'regiment' has (propbably) German ones. Nowadays, only 'pu³k' is in use.

And when the point after the number of unit is necessary?

I don't understand. Could You write more about it?
And sorry for my poor English.

best regards

[K.Kocjancic]

And when the point after the number of unit is necessary?

Do you mean something like this:
SS-Pz.Rgt. 1
11./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1


It that is soo, ...

If the number is before the unit's name (like 11. SS-Frw.Pz.gren.Div.), you must dot the number.

If the number is after the unit's name (SS-Pz.Rgt. 1), there is no dot.



Am I right?
Can somebody alse confirm this?

[nondescript handle]

If the number is before the unit's name (like 11. SS-Frw.Pz.gren.Div.), you must dot the number.
If the number is after the unit's name (SS-Pz.Rgt. 1), there is no dot.
Am I right?

You are right. And as an explanation: the dot after the number makes it an ordinal number in german.
So "11. PzGrenDiv" is the "11th Mechanized Infantry Division".
But "Reg. 1" is a cardinal number because its short for "Regiment No. 1".
Regards
Mark

[Docent P]

>There's no difference between 'pu³k' and 'regiment'. It' means the same, but word 'pulk' has Polish roots (or maybe Russian ) and 'regiment' has (propbably) German ones. Nowadays, only 'pu³k' is in use.

I see. Thank you.

>You are right. And as an explanation: the dot after the number makes it an ordinal number in german.
So "11. PzGrenDiv" is the "11th Mechanized Infantry Division".
But "Reg. 1" is a cardinal number because its short for "Regiment No. 1".

Yes. That was what I was asking about. Is this rule only for German units? Don't you need to write a point in the name of an American unit?

Like:
1. Diwizja Piechoty for the 1st Infantry Division.

[Starinov]

I am nor sure but I think that in polish it's more 1-sza Dywizja Piechoty and not 1. Dywizja Piechoty