SS-Ustuf. Bartmann (KIA, Lublin, 1944)

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SS-Ustuf. Bartmann (KIA, Lublin, 1944)

Post by steve248 » 15 May 2019 10:50

Can anyone identify this SS-officer:

2 May 1944, report by SSPF Lublin, Ia:
“30.04.44 befanden sich 5 SS-Männer auf 2 Fuhrwerken auf dem Wege z. Stützpunkt Panska-Dolina. Hinter Wierzba 0 591 erhielten beide Fuhrwerke von Waldrand Feuer aus MG und MPi. 2 SS-Männer konnten sich verwundet retten, während SS-Untersturmführer Bartmann und 2 SS-Männer gefallen sind. Den Gefallenen hat man die Waffen geraubt u. SS-Ustuf. Bartmann, die Uniform ausgezogen.”
source: USHMM, RG-15.027M reel 1

He does not appear in John Moore's Waffen-SS Führerliste, so possibly a Sipo/SD officer.

I wonder whether he is Herbert Bartmann (born 30 July 1906, SS No. 44954, commissioned SS-Ustuf. 1 June 1936: details from SS-DAL 1 December 1938)

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Re: SS-Ustuf. Bartmann (KIA, Lublin, 1944)

Post by smetanin albert » 15 May 2019 15:42

This name is not in rolls A3343:

Rolle 037:
Max Bartl(28/05/03) 0007-0008
Rudolf Bartl(17/05/050 0010-0011
Karl Bartling(24/07/11) 0013-0059
Klaus Bartling(21/12/11) 0061-0180
Wilhelm Bartling(19/12/1887) 0182-0198
Erwin Bartmann(1/09/08) 0200-0201
Fritz Bartmann(11/09/11) 0203-0268
Paul Bartmus(4/10/20) 0269-0273
.............................................


This name is not in the Polish archives /IPN:
http://inwentarz.ipn.gov.pl/advancedSea ... ann&page=1
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Re: SS-Ustuf. Bartmann (KIA, Lublin, 1944)

Post by steve248 » 15 May 2019 17:13

The name "Bartmann" is correct. I n fact there are two USHMM documents micofilmed in Poland with the name.
I do not think it was Erwin Bartmann, although SS-Ustuf. he was in the Waffen-SS and john Moore's listing would have said he was KIA
He is not Fritz Bartmann as he was still alive in the 1960`s (and SS-Stubaf.).

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Re: SS-Ustuf. Bartmann (KIA, Lublin, 1944)

Post by smetanin albert » 15 May 2019 18:43

The SS-Stammrollen was transferred after the death of the officer to the Haupt- und Versorgungsamt-SS(to provide for the family of the deceased) or the „Reichsschatzmeister der NSDAP“ , where it remained.
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