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Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by K.Kocjancic » 11 May 2007 16:52

Were there only 2 (Berlin-Zehlendorf and Brünn)?

What were they teaching and how long it lasted?

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by Joda » 22 Feb 2021 12:51

I'm interested in the same matter....anyone helps?

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by steve248 » 22 Feb 2021 13:57

In my list of SS training establishments and schools, Bln-Zehl. and Brünn are the only two listed as "Akademie". The Berlin establishment was probably something similar under Prussian Polizei; the one in Brünn, maybe something similar from a CZ point of use.

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by Joda » 22 Feb 2021 20:04

steve248 wrote:
22 Feb 2021 13:57
In my list of SS training establishments and schools, Bln-Zehl. and Brünn are the only two listed as "Akademie". The Berlin establishment was probably something similar under Prussian Polizei; the one in Brünn, maybe something similar from a CZ point of use.
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your reply.
What was exactly the role of these Akademien? I mena, what was their "teaching" role?

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by JoeW » 23 Feb 2021 06:23

steve248 wrote:
22 Feb 2021 13:57
In my list of SS training establishments and schools, Bln-Zehl. and Brünn are the only two listed as "Akademie". The Berlin establishment was probably something similar under Prussian Polizei; the one in Brünn, maybe something similar from a CZ point of use.
Steve, the Prussian Polizei Institut relocated to 1 Schlosstraße in 1927, providing university level courses in criminal sciences, law, psychology and police development to Prussian police officials, especially the Kripo. In April 1937, the school was re-designated the Führerschule der Sicherheitspolizei.

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by steve248 » 23 Feb 2021 11:52

Joe
The list I have has the Technische SS und Polizeiakademie and the Führerschule Sipo/SD separately.
The TSSuPA is clumped together with the Kraftfahrersatzabteilung der Polizei für Technik und Verkehr, and the Polizeischule für Auslandsverwendung Berlin-Oranienburg. (The English translation adds "Schupo" to the last mentioned and also mentions "Kdr. Prof. Dr. Gerlaff Gen.maj.d.p.BF" !).

The Führerschule Sipo/SD is way down the page. I do not imagine the TSSuPA is a Prussian predecessor of the Führerschule.

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by JoeW » 23 Feb 2021 18:07

Steve, I did not imply the TSSuPA was connected in anyway to a previous Prussian establishment. I was elaborating on your comment "The Berlin establishment was probably something similar under Prussian Polizei;". I misunderstood your comment to mean the TSSuPA was previously the Prussian (police) Institute and I wanted to point out its transformation into the Fuhrerschule.

Jürgen Huck in his chapter in "Zur Geschichte der Ordnungspolizei 1936-1945" notes the Berlin location of the TSSuPA was relocated to barracks building in Berlin-Zehlendorf in mid-January 1943. He writes that it was previously located at Golßener Str. 4 Berlin SW 29 as the Technische Polizeischule as listed in the 1941 Berlin directory. It was again relocated to Brünn in 1943 because of serious bombing damage. A branch was set up in Schonwalde (Kr. Niederbarnim) in February 1945.

So, was there only one TSSuPA, first in Berlin and then Brünn? And was it simply the arsenal? There was a Kriminaltechnische Institut d. SIPO, but it was a research department within the RKPA.

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by steve248 » 23 Feb 2021 18:33

Thanks, Joe, I wasn't thinking you doubted what I had posted!
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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by Joda » 23 Feb 2021 18:57

Interesting debates guys.
If this might be of interest, I own a document of a Polizei NCO, who served during 1942 in the Feldgendarmerie attached to SS units, and in mid.1944 worked in SS und Polizei Technische Akademie.
On a document send to WMA Reinickendorf, Berlin, dated June 1944, we writes that "his actual place (Wohnsitz), is in Schillerstraße 85 in Brünn (SS und Polizei Technische Akademie)"

My interest would be which was his role there..... what kind of academy was it...

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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by JoeW » 24 Feb 2021 05:23

There are no Akademie listings in the 1943/1944 Dienststellenverzeichnis listings of Schulen d. SIPO und SD. Are these research facilities/service establishments rather than true educational establishments?
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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Feb 2021 23:01

The Technische SS und Polizeiakademie was under Orpo not SIPO SD. Headed by SS-Brif. und Gen.Major der Polizei Prof. Dr Ing. Wilhelm Gerloff from 1941 to 1944. Gerloff was too Amtschef in Hauptamt Orpo.
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Re: Technische SS und Polizei-Akademie

Post by JoeW » 25 Feb 2021 04:07

That’s why it was listed in “Zur Geschichte....”.

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