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SS Germanische Leitstelle Holland

Post by feldmeyer » 10 Sep 2006 15:53

Hello,

Has anybody some info on the following persons:

Wilhelm Montel Obersturmbanführer
Wilhelm Hildebrand Obersturmführer
Gerhard Rouenhof ?
Heinrich Thole Standartenführer

Those man were during the war the leaders of the Germanische Leitstelle in the Netherlands

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Post by Mikedc » 10 Sep 2006 20:27

Wilhelm ‘Willi’ Montel: German sales-assistent.
Born on 22-6-1909 in Wesel.
In 1928 he became a member of the NSDAP(Alter Kämpfer, nr. ??).
Short after that he also joined the SS(nr. ??).
In March 1933 he became a member of the Stabswache within the Sonderkommando Berlin.
In March 1934 he got promoted to SS-Untersturmführer.
In January 1939 he got promoted to SS-Obersturmbannführer.
From 1-11-1938 till May 1945 he was commander from the 104. SS-Standarte
(HQ Troppau).
At the beginning of April 1941 he started working for the Staff from Rauter.
In April 1941 he also became the successor from Jungclaus.
And at that point he also became head of the Germanische Leitstelle in the
Netherlands, stationed in The Hague.
In October 1943 he was transfered to the Eastern front and he served with the
Waffen-SS.


Greetings,
Mike

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Post by Mikedc » 10 Sep 2006 21:10

Gerhard Rouenhoff.
Born on 20-10-1901 in Düsseldorf.
Served with the Reichswehr and the Police.
In 1931 he became a member of the NSDAP(nr. ??).
In 1932 he joined the SS(nr. ??).
SS-Obersturmbannführer.
Between 9-7-1940 and August 1940 he was chief from the Inspektion Krakau
within the Selbstschutz ‘Im Bereich Armeeoberkommando 8’ in Poland.
Between Januari 1940 and May 1945 he was commander from 57. SS-Standarte ‘Thüringer Wald’(HQ Meiningen).
In 1940 he also became Stabsleiter from the HSSPF in Lublin.
Later on he became Stabsleiter from the HSSPF in Krakau.
After that he was connected to the KL Sachsenhausen.
SS-Untersturmführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.
From July 1941 till April 1942 he Abteilungsleiter within the Germanische Leitstelle
in Berlin.
SS-Hauptsturmführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.
Later on he became chief from the Ergänzungsstelle ‘Nordwest’, which was called
SS-Ersatzkommando Niederlande at a later time.
SS-Sturmbannführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.
In October 1943 he also became head of the Germanische Leitstelle in the Netherlands.
In March 1944 he was again transfered to the Waffen-SS.
SS-Obersturmbannführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.


Greetings,
Mike

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Post by Mikedc » 10 Sep 2006 21:29

Heinrich Thole.
Born on 7-5-1907 in Osnabrück.
Agriculture education.
In 1933 he became a member of the NSDAP(nr. ??).
In 1934 he also joined the SS(nr. ??).
He made career within the SS-RusHA.
Till 1942 he was Generalinspekteur für das Siedlungswesen in occupied Poland.
SS-Obergruppenführer.
In March 1944 he became chief from the SS-Ersatzkommando and the
Germanische Leitstelle in the Netherlands.


Greetings,
Mike

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Post by Mikedc » 10 Sep 2006 21:37

Wilhelm Hildebrand: German teacher.
Born on 26-9-1908.
He was a teacher at a German secondary school.
In 1932 he became a member of the NSDAP(nr. ??).
In April 1933 he joined the SS(nr. ??).
In 1940 he served as a SS-Untersturmführer der Waffen-SS in the
SS-Regiment ‘Westland’.
Later he got promoted to SS-Obersturmführer.
From 1941 till 6-7-1943 he was chief from the Abteilung Schulung within the
Germanische Leitstelle in the Netherlands.
SS-Hauptsturmführer.
In 1943 he was back at the front, he got convicted for embezzlement.
SS-Obersturmbannführer.


Greetings,
Mike

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Post by feldmeyer » 10 Sep 2006 22:03

Thanks Mike,

Didn't thought I get an answer that soon :D

kind regards,

Etienne

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Post by Phil Nix » 11 Sep 2006 11:27

Mikedc wrote:Heinrich Thole.
Born on 7-5-1907 in Osnabrück.
Agriculture education.
In 1933 he became a member of the NSDAP(nr. ??).
In 1934 he also joined the SS(nr. ??).
He made career within the SS-RusHA.
Till 1942 he was Generalinspekteur für das Siedlungswesen in occupied Poland.
SS-Obergruppenführer.
In March 1944 he became chief from the SS-Ersatzkommando and the
Germanische Leitstelle in the Netherlands.
His final rank was Standartenführer. Here is a bit more
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Greetings,
Mike
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Post by Peter » 11 Sep 2006 13:35

Wilhelm ‘Willi’ Montel: German sales-assistent.
Born on 22-6-1909 in Wesel.
In 1928 he became a member of the NSDAP(Alter Kämpfer, nr. ??).
Short after that he also joined the SS(nr. ??).
In March 1933 he became a member of the Stabswache within the Sonderkommando Berlin.
In March 1934 he got promoted to SS-Untersturmführer.
In January 1939 he got promoted to SS-Obersturmbannführer.
From 1-11-1938 till May 1945 he was commander from the 104. SS-Standarte
(HQ Troppau).
At the beginning of April 1941 he started working for the Staff from Rauter.
In April 1941 he also became the successor from Jungclaus.
And at that point he also became head of the Germanische Leitstelle in the
Netherlands, stationed in The Hague.
In October 1943 he was transfered to the Eastern front and he served with the
Waffen-SS.
I can add a little

Gold Party Badge
Blood Order
Party 98 527
SS 3 594

Long Serving officer 104 SS-Sta,Troppau.

Ustuf.d.R.in LSSAH in Oct 41
Ostuf.d.R. SS-Wach Btl. Nordwest in Sep 42
Ostuf. 13.Waffen-Geb.Div. in Oct 43

Ustuf 16 Mar 34
Stab Ab. V in 1934
Ostuf 9 Nov 34
Stab Ab. V in 1935
Hstuf 30 Jan 36
Stab Ab. XXI in 1936
Stubaf 30 Jan 37
Ostubaf 30 Jan 39

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Post by Peter » 11 Sep 2006 13:45

Wilhelm Hildebrand: German teacher.
Born on 26-9-1908.
He was a teacher at a German secondary school.
In 1932 he became a member of the NSDAP(nr. ??).
In April 1933 he joined the SS(nr. ??).
In 1940 he served as a SS-Untersturmführer der Waffen-SS in the
SS-Regiment ‘Westland’.
Later he got promoted to SS-Obersturmführer.
From 1941 till 6-7-1943 he was chief from the Abteilung Schulung within the
Germanische Leitstelle in the Netherlands.
SS-Hauptsturmführer.
In 1943 he was back at the front, he got convicted for embezzlement.
SS-Obersturmbannführer.

I cant find him in my DAL's but John Moore's Fuhrerliste has this -

SS # 82 217

Ostuf. I./Pz.GR.10 in Jan 41
Hstuf. as VI,23.SS-Frw.Pz.Gr.Div. in Jan 44
Hstuf. at SS-Nachr.Sch. in Sep 44

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Post by Peter » 11 Sep 2006 13:56

Gerhard Rouenhoff.
Born on 20-10-1901 in Düsseldorf.
Served with the Reichswehr and the Police.
In 1931 he became a member of the NSDAP(nr. ??).
In 1932 he joined the SS(nr. ??).
SS-Obersturmbannführer.
Between 9-7-1940 and August 1940 he was chief from the Inspektion Krakau
within the Selbstschutz ‘Im Bereich Armeeoberkommando 8’ in Poland.
Between Januari 1940 and May 1945 he was commander from 57. SS-Standarte ‘Thüringer Wald’(HQ Meiningen).
In 1940 he also became Stabsleiter from the HSSPF in Lublin.
Later on he became Stabsleiter from the HSSPF in Krakau.
After that he was connected to the KL Sachsenhausen.
SS-Untersturmführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.
From July 1941 till April 1942 he Abteilungsleiter within the Germanische Leitstelle
in Berlin.
SS-Hauptsturmführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.
Later on he became chief from the Ergänzungsstelle ‘Nordwest’, which was called
SS-Ersatzkommando Niederlande at a later time.
SS-Sturmbannführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.
In October 1943 he also became head of the Germanische Leitstelle in the Netherlands.
In March 1944 he was again transfered to the Waffen-SS.
SS-Obersturmbannführer d.R. der Waffen-SS.
NSDAP - 425 786
SS- 51 480

Ustuf 20 Apr 1934
1934- Stab 22 Sta
Ostuf 20 Apr 1935
1935 - F.I/5
Hstuf 13 Sep 1936
1936 F. III/43
Stubaf 9 Nov 1937
1938 Stab Ab. XXXII
Dec 38 F. 57 SS-Sta.
Ostubaf 10 Sep 1939
1944 DAL F. 57 Sta
Stubaf d Res as SS-Pz.Gr.AuE.Btl.18 in Nov 44

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Post by Peter J. Hertel » 11 Sep 2006 17:17

Hildebrand,Wilhelm SS-Hstuf.d.R. 9.11.1942.
SS-Nr. 82 217

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Post by Michael Miller » 11 Sep 2006 19:08

A generic but heartfelt comment--> Wonderful contributions by all. Thank you, Gentlemen, for all that you do to make this the best of tens of millions of sites on the web!

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Post by feldmeyer » 11 Sep 2006 20:20

Thanks gentleman,

I really,really appreciate this !!

But :oops: does anyone have maybe some photos by the names ?

kind regards,

Etienne

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Post by Mikedc » 11 Sep 2006 22:16

I wanna thank Phil, Iltis and Peter for their contributions as well. What I didn't had was provided by them and so Etienne got what he was asking for.

I also wanna thank Phil for telling me about the mistake in rank I made regarding Thole, I had this info so I thought it was correct.

Regarding the photo-request from Etienne, I don't think I've any from these four officers.


Greetings,
Mike

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Post by u_degroot » 22 Oct 2007 00:57

Hello,

I can give you two pictures of Gerhard Rouenhoff. Just searched in our basement and found them (he was my grandfather... died in 1983, one year before i was born). I really don't know much about his activities in ww2, but would like to know more.

greetings,
Uli
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