Gestapo officers from GG-need info

[George_W]

Hello

I'am looking for info about following Gestapo officers:

Hermann Altmann/SS-Hstuf
Günther Sachse

Otto Burger
SS-Hstuf
born 20.09.1902/Stuttgart
SS nr.??

Lothar Wandel
SS-Stubaf
born 10.01.1902/Loetzen
SS nr.??

Any other info about this guys/promotion dates etc./would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
George_W

[Phil Nix]

Otto Burger Party Nr 1817067 SS Nr 307860 Usf in SDHA 9.11.38
Phil Nix

[dylan]

Hi

Krim.Kom. Gunther Sachse born 24/07/1906.
KriminalRat Lothar Wandel born 10/01/1902 Head Gestapo Radom from march 41 until april 1944.
SS Hauptsturmf. Hermann Altmann Born 7/10/1906 Head Gestapo Piotrkow
sentenced to death later reduced to life and released 1958 after his trial in Poland.
All 3 in Britisch prison camps after 1945.
Otto Burger deputy Wandel abteilung IV executed 3/02/1950 in Poland.

dylan

[Mikedc]

Wandels full name was Gottfried Richard Lothar Wandel and he was born
in Lötzen/East Prussia.

In 1940 he succeeded E. Fischer as head of Abteilung IV(Gestapo)within the Staff from the KdS in Krakau. On 12-7-1945 he was arrested by British troops in Berlin.


Greetings,
Mike

[mulisch]

Hello to you all,

Does somebody know what happened to Gottfried Richard Lothar Wandel after his arrest on 12-07-1945 ?

For example:

1. Was he handed over to the Polisch Government to stand trial (if he was handed over, what was the exact date) ;
2. What was the date that his trial started ;
3. What was his sentence (and what was the date that he was sentenced) ;
4. Did any of his former collegues, made a statement at his trial ;
5. When did he die and where ;
6. Are there any pictures of him ;
7. etc.

Thank in advance,

Mulisch

[dylan]

Hi

Lothar Wandel in June 1947 in Civil Internment Camp Eselheide CIC NO 7.
never extradited to Poland so there is no war crime trial .
The reason for his not extradition is unknown to me.

dylan

[mulisch]

Hello Dylan,

Thanks for your answer, but was he released from the Civil Internment Camp Eselheide CIC NO 7in June 1947 or later ?

Is there perhaps somebody who knows if this man stood trial somewhere in Germany for his actions during the war ?

Thanks in advance again,

Mulisch

[George_W]

Hello

Wandel wasn't tried in Germany.
He stood as witness in trial of Paul Fuchs and Hermann Weinrich
(from Radom Gestapo).
He died after 1964.

George_W

[steve248]

Karl GÜNTHER Sachse
24 July 1906, born Plön/Holstein
1928, obtained his Abitur at Gymnasium Plön
late 1928, moved to Berlin, joined police service and attended
Polizeischule Brandenburg as Polizei-Anwärter
March 1929, Wachtmeister in Berlin Schupo
1931, Oberwachtmeister
1933, transferred into Kripo service
June 1935, appointed KK; employed by Polizeipräsidium Berlin, Abt IV
1936, transferred to Gestapo service with Gestapo Berlin, Abt Abwehr
March 1938, posted to Gestapo Zwickau, Abt II
Aug 1938, moved to Gestapo Plauen
1940, NS
Feb 1941, transfer to BdS Paris, Abt IV CD
July 1941, transfer to KdS Lublin
Aug-Dec 1941, at Aussenstelle Cholm
Jan-Sept 1942, returned to Lublin office (internal discipline cases)
Sept 1942, psted to RSHA IV A, Berlin (SS-Ostuf KK)
Dec 1942, posted to Stapo Karlsruhe (economic cases)
March 1943, returned to KdS Lublin
July 1944, office evacuated to KdS Radom
20 Dec 1944, posted to Einsatzkommando VIII being formed at Freiburg (Breisgau) for Einsatzgruppen activities in the Ardenne
31 Dec 1944, wounded in eye and treated in Bonn and Ulflingen
13 Jan 1945, with Kommando VIII to Bromberg (arrived end of month)
Feb 1945, sent to join staff of IdS Dresden as Hilfsuntersuchungsführer
March-May 1945 in retreat northwest towards Schleswig-Holstein
3 May 1945, surrended to US forces near Schwerin

Steve

[steve248]

Gottfried Richard LOTHAR WANDEL
10 Jan 1902, born Lötzen/Ostpr.
1908-1914, Humanistisches Gymnasium, Königsberg
1914-1920, ditto in Berlin
1920-1923, apprentice with Gebr Heymann, bankers in Berlin
1923-1925, with other banking businesses in Berlin
1925-1928, studied law at Berlin University
Apr 1928-May 1929, KK-Lehrgang in Berlin
Dec 1929, KK final examinations
Jan 1930, appointed Hilfs-KK, Kripo Berlin
Dec 1930, transfer to Pol.präsidium Düsseldorf, KK a.Pr.
Jan 1931, KK
Dec 1930-Dec 1933, worked on motor vehicle thefts, burglary, fraud and finally from spring 1933, political police and right-wing parties
Jan 1934, transfer to Gestapa Berlin, Abt Kommunismus
Nov 1936, transfer to Stapo Magdeburg, dealt with Church Matters, illegal Leftist parties, accidents, homosexuality
1937, Kriminalrat
Feb 1939, transfer to Stapoleitstelle Dresden, Abt Kommunismus
Dec 1939, transfer to Stapo Brno
Apr 1940, returned to StapoLS Dresden before his transfer to KdS Krakau, Abt IV
March 1941, transfer to KdS Radom as Stapoleiter
Dec 1944, returned to StapoLS Dresden, Abt Church Affairs, Werkschutz
and Werkabwehr
14 Feb 1945, wounded in air-raid on Dresden
begin March 1945, returned to work at StapoLS Dresden as a "Büroleiter"
end Apr 1945, claims he was arrested on ordfers of Stapoleiter Schulz for disobedience - didn't burn down houses showing a white flag
begin May 1945, rejoined his wife in Dittersdorf, even when occupied by the Russians
8-9 July 1945, went to Berlin and lived with his parents
12 July 1945, denounced and arrested by German police who handed him over to the British authorities.
Claims he was never a member of the SS or the NSDAP.

[Peter]

Superb material Steve

[George_W]

Thanks a lot!

George_W

[Ludger]

Gottfried Richard LOTHAR WANDEL
10 Jan 1902, born Lötzen/Ostpr.
1908-1914, Humanistisches Gymnasium, Königsberg
1914-1920, ditto in Berlin
1920-1923, apprentice with Gebr Heymann, bankers in Berlin
1923-1925, with other banking businesses in Berlin
1925-1928, studied law at Berlin University
Apr 1928-May 1929, KK-Lehrgang in Berlin
Dec 1929, KK final examinations
Jan 1930, appointed Hilfs-KK, Kripo Berlin
Dec 1930, transfer to Pol.präsidium Düsseldorf, KK a.Pr.
Jan 1931, KK
Dec 1930-Dec 1933, worked on motor vehicle thefts, burglary, fraud and finally from spring 1933, political police and right-wing parties
Jan 1934, transfer to Gestapa Berlin, Abt Kommunismus
Nov 1936, transfer to Stapo Magdeburg, dealt with Church Matters, illegal Leftist parties, accidents, homosexuality
1937, Kriminalrat
Feb 1939, transfer to Stapoleitstelle Dresden, Abt Kommunismus
Dec 1939, transfer to Stapo Brno
Apr 1940, returned to StapoLS Dresden before his transfer to KdS Krakau, Abt IV
March 1941, transfer to KdS Radom as Stapoleiter
Dec 1944, returned to StapoLS Dresden, Abt Church Affairs, Werkschutz
and Werkabwehr
14 Feb 1945, wounded in air-raid on Dresden
begin March 1945, returned to work at StapoLS Dresden as a "Büroleiter"
end Apr 1945, claims he was arrested on ordfers of Stapoleiter Schulz for disobedience - didn't burn down houses showing a white flag
begin May 1945, rejoined his wife in Dittersdorf, even when occupied by the Russians
8-9 July 1945, went to Berlin and lived with his parents
12 July 1945, denounced and arrested by German police who handed him over to the British authorities.
Claims he was never a member of the SS or the NSDAP.

Thanks a lot Steve!!!

What does this abreveation mean??

Greetings from

Ludger

[Alex]

KK a. Pr. = Krim. Kommissar auf Probe.

Alex

[Ludger]

KK a. Pr. = Krim. Kommissar auf Probe.

Alex

Thanks Alex!!

Greetings from

Ludger