Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by John P. Moore » 24 Apr 2012 05:32

Sandy - I was going to recommend that you contact the Bundesarchive to obtain a copy of his personnel file, but I checked my records and none appear to exist. The same thing applies to a Franz Bleess, who was a member of the Artillerie Rgt. "PE" in September 1942. I find it odd that such capable officers were released from the "PE" when SS squads were going around to every village in Jugoslavia in early 1942 to press gang all available males into the "PE".

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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by history1 » 24 Apr 2012 10:04

Sandy D wrote:[...] the family history is that he was killed by Tito's partisans in his home village (I think Perlez) in 1944, [...] I have found a paragraph online that says the oldest and youngest recruits were released from Prinz Eugen in December 1942 and January 1943. He was born 15/6/1982 so he would have been one of the oldest, I think. And that could explain why he was killed in his home village. Is that likely?
I guess it´s more likely that he has been killed for cooperation /fighting with Yugoslavia´s enemies. His age didn´t matter.
Sandy D wrote: My search is just beginning. [...] My ultimate goal is to find out exactly where and when he died, and if there is any grave/mass grave/memorial.
That´s a difficult task. Good luck!

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PS.: My great-grandfather was of similar age, had only one eye and is missing in 1945 around the polish/czech border. He wasn´t attached to a fighting unit but to Landwehr unit guarding barracks there. Family story is that he has been killed by czech partisans (quite possible) but I wasn´t able to find a certain trace..

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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by Sandy D » 25 Apr 2012 00:40

Hi John and Roman, thanks for replying.

I'm sorry, his date of birth was 15/6/1892, not 1982. I have seen the surname spelt Blees/Bleess/Bleesz or Bleß. I think he was also a soldier in WW1, but I am not sure for who. I have sent an enquiry to Wast and am beginning my long wait!

Regarding his death, all the men in the village were shot by the partisans, and when they ran out of bullets they used pieces of wood. The women (including my mother and grandmother) were forced to watch. My mother was 16. I have a possible date for this, 9/10/1944, but I have found absolutely nothing on the internet about this, so far.

For the moment, though, I am concentrating on finding out about Michael. Thanks again for your help.

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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by H. Hoth » 19 Jun 2012 14:49

Hello,
I am in possession of an officer's Allgemeine black visor cap named to "Loschen", no first initial however, but with an umlaut over the "o". I'm hoping that that is not a common name and would like to find out more about the owner for my collection. I am at a loss as to where to go as I don't speak German. Perhaps you can help or direct me to the correct place? I am attaching some photos that may help. Files are too big to be attached.

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Re: Michael Blees

Post by Mikedc » 03 Jul 2012 22:06

Michael Blees indeed most likely served in WW-I, at least according the following site:
http://www.rudolfsgnad-banat.de/chronik ... der-schule


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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by Sandy D » 04 Jul 2012 03:29

Thank you, Mike. I was aware of that page, that is where I got the idea that he served in WW1.

I have recenlty found out that he was an engineer, and worked for the water company.

There is still so much I don't know.

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Post by Phil Nix » 09 Jul 2012 11:09

Thanks very much
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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by Mikedc » 30 Jul 2012 18:56

On page 25 of this thread, Dec-1942---22.jpg, I've a hard time reading the name below Franz Bevermann correctly. It read to me something like Ignatz Kemmel but I'm sure that is not correct......

Who can help me please??
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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by history1 » 31 Jul 2012 18:09

That´s a though one, Mike.
Given name is "Ignatz" and the last name was "Remmel" but corrected into "Temmel", IMHO.
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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by Mikedc » 31 Jul 2012 18:52

Hello Roman,
Thank you very much for solving this one, I've found him.
SS-number 423.701 and made it eventually to SS-Ostuf d.R. Waffen-SS.
Only on this site they call him Ignaz instead of Ignatz ( http://www.dws-xip.pl/reich/biografie/n ... er423.html ).

Have some other questions and hopefully someone can help.
In the left column before the name Karl Hauser there's written Hptm(W), I really have no clue what it means(Hauptmann Waffen or something??).
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=360 (Dec-1942---21.jpg)

In the left column before the name Otto Kirsch there's written A.V. Ko.
Does somebody know what this stands for??
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=360 (Dec-1942---22.jpg)

In the right column after the name Paul Kunisch there's written VA(that's the column where normally the unit the officer served in is mentioned). Does this mean he was Mitarbeiter IVa in different units within the SS-Kavallerie-Division??
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=360 (Dec-1942---23.jpg)


http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=360 (Dec-1942---23.jpg)
There's a name written down which I read as Friedrich Wehde, is this correct??


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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by history1 » 31 Jul 2012 18:57

Mikedc wrote:Hello Roman,
[...] they call him Ignaz instead of Ignatz ( http://www.dws-xip.pl/reich/biografie/n ... er423.html ).
Hi, Ignaz versus Ignatz doesn´t matter. Good find!

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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by Mikedc » 31 Jul 2012 19:51

No, it doesn't matter that much.
But I wanted to share it anyway.
Most important was that you're able to write his family-name correctly, something I failed to do.

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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by history1 » 01 Aug 2012 08:41

Agree with Friedrich Wehde.
Referring the acronyms: Somewhere on my PC is a file with the explanation of them but sadly I don´t remember the files name (german variants didn´t provide a result). But will search for the file in the www and hope to find it.

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Roman

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Re: Registers of Waffen-SS Officers from KTBs

Post by history1 » 01 Aug 2012 09:07

Found the file! Hope it will be usefull for you, Mike!
http://www.wartimepress.com/WWII-Archiv ... ations.pdf

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Roman

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