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Post by j keenan » 27 Jan 2008 21:05

coburg22 wrote:Hello,

I am still looking for additional Names / Photos and and Bio material on SS-BK members for my book, any help would be greatly appreciated and credit given. The names I have on file at this time are listed below.

SS-Begeleitkommando:

SS-Strumbannführer Willy Herzberger
SS-Sturmbannführer Kurt Gildisch
SS-Hauptsturmführer Adolf Dirr
SS-Haputsturmführer Bodo Gölzenleuchter
SS-Sturmbannführer Bruno Gesche
SS-Obersturmbannführer Erich Kempka
SS-Obersturmbannführer Franz Schadle
SS-Hauptsturmführer August Korber
SS-Obersturmbannführer Richard Schulze-Kossens
SS-Obersturmführer Ernst Bahls
SS-Hauptsturmführer Hans Pfeiffer
SS-Sturmbannführer Paul Wernicke
SS-Standartenführer Max Wünsche
SS-Obersturmbannführer Fritz Darges
SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche
SS-Obersturmführer Hansgeorg Schulze-Kossens
SS-Sturmbannführer Heinz Linge
SS-Untersturmführer Karl-Wilhelm Krause
SS-Obersturmführer Hans Hermann Junge
SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Meyer
SS-Unterscharführer Wilhelm Schneider
SS-Hauptsturmführer Helmut Beermann
SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Schneider
SS-Hauptsturmführer Heinz Kersten
SS-Obersturmführer Hermann Bornhold
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Helmuth Frick
SS-Hauptsturmführer Ewald Lindloff
SS-Unterscharführer Maximilian Kolz
SS-Unterscharfuürer Rochus Misch

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James
hi james
are the above LSSAH members
thanks jamie

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Post by coburg22 » 27 Jan 2008 22:25

Hi Jamie,

The LSSAH was the parent unit of the SS-Begleitkommando. I am not sure what year members started to wear the Adolf Hitler cuffband but the original eight members of the BK were selected from various SS Standarten and presented to Hitler at the Kaiserhof Hotel by Sepp Dietrich and remained under Hitler's authority until the end of the war. As the unit grew, SSBK members were rotated from the LSSAH and many served front line duties with the Leibstandarte except for Gesche who originally served in the Division for a short period but was later transferred to Reichsfuhrer-SS when demoted and Darges who served with Wiking when he was asked to leave. Read "Hitler's Personal Security" by Peter Hoffmann, great book and info regarding the history of the SSBK and RSD.

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James

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Post by BB-WA » 28 Jan 2008 04:56

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Hi James and Peter

Thanks for the information on Willy Herzberger, Adolf Dirr and Kurt Gildisch.

Regarding Kurt Gildisch what was his rank at the time he became Kdr. He was promoted to SS-Stuf. 01.07.1933 , 3 months later. So was he just an SS-Mann or SS-Scharführer or ?

Regarding Willy Herzberger and Adolf Dirr I am unable to find them in the 1934 DAL and still can't. For Herzberger I have looked as far as SS-Ostubaf. in the DAL in case of later promotion. Adolf Dirr I can't locate in the SS-Stuf. list. Was Dirr promoted straight to SS-Ostuf. on 15.09.1935 and this is the reason I cant find him. Iif so what was his rank at the time of joining the SS-BK on 04.03.1932 ?
Must be my eyes!!. Could someone just give me the list number in the DAL then I can find them both.

any info appreciated
Brian

any info appreciated
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Post by coburg22 » 28 Jan 2008 05:35

Hello Brian,

What SS DAL's do you have besides the 1934?

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James

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Post by BB-WA » 28 Jan 2008 08:06

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Hi James

None I'm afraid. I just fly by the seat of my pants with info I get by reading the various posts. I use the 1934 for the names and future career paths of the people listed. In some cases someone can get a humble start to become rising stars if you get my drift! If only they knew how it would end. Our local inter-change library cannot get any of the DAL's from our state library as they don't have them, so I work with what I can.

Brian

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Post by Phil Nix » 28 Jan 2008 11:41

Willi Herzberger born 11.7.1895 Party Nr 420769 SS Nr 4995 Usf 15.2.32 Sturmhauptf 15.9.32 Sbf 20.4.36 Oberleutnant der Reserve He appears in 1934 DAL Nr 3152 in the SS Führer z.V.listing
Adolf Dirr born 14.2.07 Party Nr 125997 SS Nr 54958 Usf 1.7.34 Osf 15.9.35 Beim LSSAH 1938
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Post by BB-WA » 28 Jan 2008 14:53

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Hi Phil thanks for the extra info

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Post by j keenan » 28 Jan 2008 16:14

aright james
thanks for that, i'll after get some money together and buy it.
cheers jamie

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Post by RolandP » 29 Jan 2008 19:56

Hallo,
concerning Arthur Klingemeier, he was no member of the Führerbegleitkommando, although John P.Moore mentioned it in his Führerliste, but commander of SS-Pz.Gren.Ausb.u.Ers.Btl. 1 Berlin - Spreenhagen from September 1943 until the formation of the so called KGr.Mohnke on April 25th 1945 becoming Ia; maybe from April the 15th until April 25th 1945, he led a battle group formed from the SS-Pz.Gren.AuE-Btl 1, but the group seems to be not in action until the fightings in Berlin.

Arthur Klingemeier: * 24.2.13 Kummerfeld, gest. 1997 Wiesbaden ?, SS-Nr.25 936, 3.35 Ustuf.i.10./LSSAH , 11.39 Hstuf.u. Chef,6./LSSAH , 1.43 Hstuf.u. z.b.V.,Pz.GR.2, 21.6.43 Stubaf, 6.44 Stubaf.u. Kdr.SS-Pz.Gr.AuE.Btl.1, 7.44 Kdr.SS-PzGren.E.Btl.1, 4.45 Stubaf.i. Begl.Kdo.d.Führers. † 1. 5.45 Berlin, Moore Führerliste, s.a. DAL WaSS 1.7.44, unfortunaltely I could not rember the scource for his death 1997 Wiesbaden, maybe this is wrong!!!

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Post by coburg22 » 29 Jan 2008 22:16

Hello Roland,

That is correct. Even though there were units of the LSSAH as well as one of it's former Divisional Commanders defending the Govt., it did not automatically mean that they were part of Hitler's actual SSBK even though they shared the same unit formation (LSSAH).

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James

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Post by Halfdan S. » 30 Jan 2008 19:20

Can anyone tell more about Klingemeiers fate? Always heard that he fell in Berlin . . .

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Post by Heimatschuss » 19 Jun 2009 21:27

Hello,
Peter J. Hertel wrote:How's this for starters :
Weichelt, Karl
Born : 26.10.14
SS-Nr. : 68.989
in Kdo. since : 18.5.34
eingstr. als : Strm.
Last Rank in W.-SS : Ustuf.d.Res.
Last Promotion : 1.1.39
Rank in Allg.-SS :
Last Promotion :
Active in the W.-SS LSSAH : 26.10.33 — 18.5.34
Frontline Action : 7.6.42 — 31.10.42
Badges :
here's a photo of Karl Weichelt in civilian clothes
Ustuf. Karl Gotthard-Walter Weichelt.jpg
Born : 26.10.14 in Marienberg
Died: 02.05.1945 in Berlin
Source: http://www.die-laprells.de/frames/02Generationen.html

In 1937 he married Thekla Maria Michels, one of Hitler's secretaries. See http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... t#p1343794

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Re: SS-Begleitkommando" Der Führer"

Post by mty » 20 Jun 2009 13:34

I would like to hear more about the specific role of the SSBK during the Röhm purge. I think this very topic has not been covered well enough in literature. The only ascertained facts (to my knowledge) are:

1) Kurt Gildisch was assigned special tasks: murder of Klausener and arrests of Karl Ernst and Dr. Erwin Villain. I am not aware if he was chosen because of his SSBK position or regardless of it, because of his character and "suitability" for that kind of tasks. IIRC, Gildisch testified that he had small group of men with him. It was not mentioned if these men came from LAH proper or SSBK (although technically SSBK belonged to the LAH).

2) Small grouping (at least one carload) of SSBK members were present in Bad Wiessee, together with the Führerschutzkommando of Bavarian state police. All the arrests were technically carried out by FSK, under Kriminalkommissar Schmidbauer who was taken into the SS the following day (SS-Ostuf. since 01.07.1934!).

It appears that most of the SSBK members remained in their regular duties, such as driver, valet etc. but some had more sinister assignments.

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Re: SS-Begleitkommando" Der Führer"

Post by windermcconnell » 05 Jun 2010 02:14

I note that the last entry was almost a year ago. I met SS-Sturmbannführer Kempka in 1974, SS-Hauptsturmführer Helmut Beermann (who took care of the mail coming into the Reich Chancellery as part of his "normal, daily" duties), and I knew SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche (we first met at the reunion of the 1st SS Pz. Korps in Nassau/Lahn in May, 1974), with whom I had dinner just a few weeks before his death in 2003. Regrettably, I am also reaching an age where memory is fading....

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Re: SS-Begleitkommando" Der Führer"

Post by j keenan » 25 Feb 2013 20:58

Sander, Heinz
d.o.b.17.11.13
ss-number 146 357
party number 3 602 118
SS-Mann, 2/LAH, 36
SS-Osch. Begleitkommando , 8.40
Wiebezick, Eric
d.o.b. 20.2.16
ss-number 268 106
SS-Mann, 10/LAH, 36
SS-Osch. Begleitkommando , 8.40
Order of the Reichsführer-SS 10.8.40 demoted to the rank of SS-Mann and permanently expelled from the SS
because they abused the trust of the Führer in the grossest manner.
Source 9.10.40 Tagesbefehl Nr.63
I think it refers to the Begleitkommando der Führer ?

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