SS and Nazi war criminals deaths in custody.

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Postby Potsdamerplatz » 07 Aug 2007 23:35

Thanks for the list, I've been looking for something like this for some time.

Another few names I can add to the list are:

1.) Reich Justice Minister Otto Georg Thierack who committed suicide in Sennelager, Paderborn, by poisoning before he could be brought before the court at the Nuremberg Judges' Trial.

2.) Reich Education Minister Bernhard Rust who committed suicide on 8th May 1945, the day of the German surrender.

I still believe Gustav Wagner was murdered, probably by Sobibor surivivor Szlomo Szmajzner.
See: viewtopic.php?p=972361#972361

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Postby Potsdamerplatz » 16 Aug 2007 02:39

Jakob Sprenger, Gauleiter of Hessen-Nassau, is another name to add to our list. He committed suicide on 8th April 1945 in Tyrol, Austria rather than fall into Allied hands.

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Postby steve248 » 16 Aug 2007 08:38

Otto Rasch:

I notice in one of the posts above the comment that Rasch died in US custody. This is not correct.

Rasch was released from US custody because of Parkinsons Disease and returned to the British authorities. They released him to his home where he died on 1 Nov 1948. His body - so I am informed - was exhumed from the local cemtery in the place he died, and re-buried in Berlin.

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Postby Potsdamerplatz » 17 Aug 2007 01:07

SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Hans Kammler is another suicide. Killed himself near Prague on 9th or 10th May 1945 rather than fall into Allied hands.

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Postby Georg_S » 17 Aug 2007 05:10

Hello Potsdamerplatz,

What is the source of that, I always heard that he vanished by the end of the war.

best reg.

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Postby Potsdamerplatz » 17 Aug 2007 11:54

Georg wrote:Hello Potsdamerplatz,

What is the source of that, I always heard that he vanished by the end of the war.

best reg.

Georg


Hans Kammer

Mike Miller's full biography details of Kammler are in this topic:

viewtopic.php?t=13942

Albert Speer, Dr. Wilhelm Voss and Generalmajor Walter Dornberger also give roughly the same testimony in various publications that Kammer either took poison or ordered his adjutant to shoot him when the military situation became hopeless in the Prague region, May 1945.

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Postby paolosilv » 02 Jul 2009 11:17

Edouard Roschmann is listed here. He was called the "Butcher of Riga" in the book and film called, "The Odessa File". I believe he died in 1979, Paraguay, after being on the run. Did they ever find his body?

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Postby Ludger » 04 Jul 2009 14:42

paolosilv wrote:Edouard Roschmann is listed here. He was called the "Butcher of Riga" in the book and film called, "The Odessa File". I believe he died in 1979, Paraguay, after being on the run. Did they ever find his body?


Roschmann died on 10.08.1977 in a hospital in Asuncion/Paraguay. He was identified without any doubt because of his injuries from his flight from custody (frozen toes) in Dec. 1947.

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Postby paolosilv » 06 Jul 2009 08:56

Thank you. I was beginning to lose sleep over the dead Nazi issue. I believe Martin Sandberger is the last major living Nazi, at age 99. There are other lesser Nazis and more helpers "Hiwis". I believe they claim Alois Brunner, one of the absolute worst Nazis, responsible for the deportation of the French Jews, is believed to be dead. Aribert Heim was declared dead. But more than this, I won't say. What if one of their relatives is reading this?

PS: One of the worst "Hiwis" was "Ivan Marchenko" , aka Ivan the Terrible. He was last seen alive at San Sabba, a hastily improvised camp in Trieste. Trieste is in Italy, although it has been at times part of Yugoslavia. He was involved in murdering by gassing and cremating them in Treblinka death camp, and at San Sabba as well. The trail of what happened to him then grows mysterious. He was with Globocknic, who is listed as being captured by the British (picture is listed above). Does anyone know more -- did he die in Trieste?

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Re: SS and Nazi war criminals deaths in custody.

Postby ansata1976 » 26 Jul 2009 21:47

Suicide:

Dietloff von Arnim 21.01.1876-suicide 1945
Landeshauptmann Brandenburg

Karl Astel 26.02.1898 in Schweinfurt-suicide 04.04.1945 in Jena
SS-Standartenführer

Georg Bachmayer 12.05.1913 in Friedolfing-suicide(with family) 08.05.1945 in Münzach
SS-Hauptsturmführer,Schutzhaftlagerführer KZ Mauthausen and KZ Ebensee

Herbert Backe 01.05.1896 in Batum-suicide 06.04.1947 in prison in Nuremberg
Staatssekretär im Reichsernährungsministerium

Rudolf Batz 10.11.1903 in Langensalza-suicide 08.02.1961 in prison
SS-Standartenführer, comander SD Krakau

Walther Bierkamp 17.12.1901 in Hamburg-suicide 15.05.1945
SS-Brigadeführer and major of the police
SD Dusseldorf,Einsatzgruppe D,SD Krakau

Franz von Bodmann 23.03.1908 in Zwiefaltendorf-suicide 25.05.1945 in Markt Pongau
KZ Majdanek,KZ Vaivara and Auschwitz, doctor in Neuengamme

Franz Böhme 15.04.1885 in Zeltweg-suicide 29.05.1947 in prison in Nuremberg
General of the mountain troop

Kurt Bolender 21.05.1912 in Duisburg-suicide10.10.1966 in prison
SS-Unterscharführer in Sobibor,then camp Gdansk-Matzkau

Hans Bothmann 11.11.1911 in Lohe/Süderdithmarschen-suicide 04.04.1945 in Heide
SS-Hauptsturmführer, comander of Chelmno, SD in Poznan

Fritz Bracht 18.01.1899 in Heiden/Lippe-suicide 09.05.1945 with his wife in Bad Kudowa
NSDAP-Gauleiter Silesia

Ernst Heinrich Brill 06.08.1892 in Darmstadt-suicide 02.05.1945 in Rostock
SS-Sturmbannführer, Dermatologist

Walter Buch 24.10.1883 in Bruchsal-suicide 12.09.1949 in Ammersee
Highesr judge,father-in-law of Martin Bormann

Paul Budin 04.12.1892 in Magdeburg-suicide 14.04.1945 in Skarzysko-Kamienna
SS-Obersturmbannführer, general director of the HASAG factories

Erwin Bumke 07.07.1874 in Stolp-suicide 20.04.1945 in Leipzig
President of the highest court

Hermann Bunjes 01.09.1911 in Bramsche-suicide 25.07.1945 after arrest in Trier
SS-Obersturmführer ,Art historian in Parisor

Otto Busse 20.10.1896 in ?-suicide 1968 before the trial
Kreishaupmann in Hrubieszow

Wilhelm Crohne 14.07.1880 in ?-suicide in may 1945 with his family
Ministerialdirektor im Reichsjustizministerium

Theodor Dannecker 27.03.1913 in Tübingen-suicide 10.12.1945 in Bad Tölz
SS-Hauptsturmführer, SD Belgium, Sonderkommando Eichmann in Sofia and Hungary

Kurt Delitzsch 27.09.1885 in Leipzig-suicide 1945
Judge in Wiesbaden and Kassel, NS-Gaustellenleiter

Hans Delmotte 15.12.1917 in Liege-suicide 1945
SS-Obersturmführer and SS-doctor in Auschwitz

Erwin Ding-Schuler 19.09.1912 in Bitterfeld-suicide 11.08.1945 in Freising
SS-Sturmbannführer, doctor in Buchenwald


Kurt Eberhard 12.09.1874 in Rottweil-suicide 08.09.1947 in Stuttgart
Major-general, city commander of Kiev

Joachim Eggeling 30.11.1884 in Blankenburg-suicide april 1945 in Halle
NSDAP-Gauleiter Halle-Merseburg,SS-Obergruppenführer

Heinz Ehaus 01.02.1906 in Lauenburg-suicide 08.05.1945 in Johannisbad
SS-Obersturmbannführer, Regierungsrat im Hauptamt der Sicherheitspolizei,Kreishauptmann in Reichshof

Walter Ernstberger 23.08.1913 in Pforzheim-suicide june 1945 in Sagan
SS-Obersturmführer, KZ Mauthausen and Groß-Rosen

Heinrich Fehlis 01.11.1906 in Wulften-suicide 11.05.1945 in Norway
SS-Oberführer, SD Norway

Alfred Freyberg 12.07.1892 in Harsleben-suicide april 1945
SS-Gruppenführer, minister in Anhalt,1940 mayor of Leipzig

Hans Georg von Friedeburg 15.07.1895 in Straßburg-suicide 23.05.1945 in Flensburg-Mürwik
Admiral

Ernst Frowein 25.08.1916 in Iserlohn-suicide december 1946
KZ-doctor and SS-Hauptsturmführer, KZ Sachsenhausen, deputy of Grawitz

Paul Otto Geibel 10.06.1898 in Dortmund-suicide october 1966 in prison in Poland
SS-Oberführer und Generalmajor der Polizei, comander of the police in Warsaw and Prague

Paul Giesler 15.06.1895 in Siegen-suicide 04.05.1945 in Berchtesgaden
NSDAP-Gauleiter Westphalen

Richard Glücks 22.04.1889 in Düsseldorf-suicide 10.05.1945 in Flensburg-Mürwik
SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Waffen-SS

Hellmuth Gommlich 11.07.1891 in Dresden-suicide 03.04.1945 in Weimar
SS-Sturmbannführer

Curt von Gottberg 11.02.1896 in Preußisch Wilten-suicide 31.05.1945 in Lutzhöft b.Grundhof
Krs. Flensburg
SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS und der Polizei

Walter Grabowski 27.08.1896 in Rosenberg-suicide 1945
NS official

Ernst Grawitz 08.06.1899 in Berlin-suicide 24.04.1945 in Berlin
SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS, chief of medical care department

Robert Ritter von Greim 22.06.11892 in Bayreuth-suicide 24.05.1945 in Salzburg
Generalfeldmarschall

Walter Groß 21.10.1904 in Kassel-suicide 25.04.1945 in Berlin
Head Office of the racial policy of the NSDAP



Erich Großmann 30.01.1902 in Gdansk-suicide 14.12.1948 in Oerbke
SS-Oberführer and Gauärzteführer

Rolf Günther 08.01.1913 in Erfurt-suicide 1945 in Ebensee
Eichmann's permanent representative in the Reich Security Main Office

Georg Haberkern 04.04.1899 in Spalt-suicide 1945 near Georgengemünd
Brigade leader of the SA

part II of my list i post soon
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Re: SS and Nazi war criminals deaths in custody.

Postby paolosilv » 26 Jul 2009 21:51

Has it been confirmed that SS Friedrich-Wilhelm Krüger committed suicide? One site I looked at claimed it was his brother's body in the grave, as he committed suicide as well or in lieu of Friedrich-Wilhelm . Danke.

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Postby ansata1976 » 26 Jul 2009 22:02

paolosilv wrote:Has it been confirmed that SS Friedrich-Wilhelm Krüger committed suicide? One site I looked at claimed it was his brother's body in the grave, as he committed suicide as well or in lieu of Friedrich-Wilhelm. Danke.


In my sources they say: Friedrich-Wilhelm Krüger 08.05.1894 in Straßburg-suicide 10.05.1945 in Oberösterreich, and the district court of Wiesbaden confirmed it in case number JS 1145/60

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Postby paolosilv » 27 Jul 2009 05:38

Thank you. :)

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Postby ansata1976 » 28 Aug 2009 14:26

Hans Collani (February 13, 1908 in Stettin, † July 29, 1944 at Narva(suicide)) was a German SS colonel of the Waffen-SS

Herbert Friedrich Ludwig Alpers, also called "Fritz Alpers' called (March 25, 1901 Sonnenberg, † September 3, 1944 in Mons, Belgium (suicide)) was a German Nazi politician, minister of the Free State of Brunswick, SA and SS Member, General Forester, State Secretary and an officer. Alpers is responsible for numerous crimes of the Nazis in Brunswick is responsible.

Otto Friedrich Herzog (born 30 October 1900 Zeiskam; † 6 May 1945 in Wroclaw (suicide)) was a member of parliament of the NSDAP and SA Obergruppenfiihrer.

Krüger, Walter (February 27, 1890 in Strasbourg, Alsace, † 22 May 1945 in Lithuania (suicide)) an SS General and General of the Waffen SS.

Friedrich-Wilhelm Krüger (born May 8, 1894 in Strasbourg; † 10 May 1945 in Gundertshausen, Upper Austria(suicide)) was a functionary of the Nazi Party, SS General and General of the Waffen-SS (1944) and Police (1941).

Joachim Rumohr (August 6, 1910 in Hamburg, † 11 February 1945 in Budapest(suicide)) was a German SS brigade commander, and Major General of the Waffen-SS and a Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross.

Friedrich Suhr (born May 6, 1907 in Lüneburg; † 31 May 1946 (suicide) in prison, Wuppertal-Elberfeld) was in Nazi Germany SS Lieutenant Colonel and Government, Heads of Unit II A 3 (Justice Affairs, claims for damages) as well as employees in Eichmannreferat IV B 4 of the RSHA, the leader of the Sonderkommando 4b and 6 of the Einsatzgruppen Einsatzgruppen of the Security Police and Security Service in Russia, commander of the Security Police and SD in France.

Manfred Freiherr von Killinger (born July 14, 1886 at Good Lindigt in Nossen, † September 2, 1944 in Bucharest ( suicide) was a German naval officer, Freikorps, military writer, member of the Reichstag, Nazi politician and diplomat.

William Traupel (May 6, 1891 in Mainz, † 7 February 1946 in Recklinghausen (suicide)) was SS Colonel (1939), German manager at the Friedrich Krupp AG and governor of the Prussian province of Hesse-Nassau.

The moderator had to disconnect the following Generals/Admirals.
They do not belong to the superordinate concept "war criminals" in this context !!
It should not be allowed to measure everything by the same yardstick !!



Karl Decker (born November 30, 1897 at Borntin near Neustettin; † 21 April 1945 in Groß Brunsrode near Brunswick (suicide) was a German officer, most recently General of Panzer Troops

Werner Albrecht Freiherr von und zu Gilsa (March 4, 1889 in Berlin, May 8, 1945 Leitmeritz † (suicide)) was a German officer, as general of infantry and last Commandant of Dresden. As colonel Gilsa was commandant of the Olympic village in Berlin 1936.

Hermann Geyer (born July 7, 1882 in Stuttgart, † April 10, 1946 at Wildsee near Wildbad (suicide) was a German officer, as general of infantry in World War II.

Günther von Kluge (October 30, 1882 in Poznan, † 19 August 1944 Metz (suicide), also known as Hans Günther von Kluge) was a German army officer (since 1940 Field Marshal) during World War II and commander of the 4th Army and various military groups.

Walter Model (January 24, 1891 Genthin; † 21 April 1945 in Duisburg) was a German army officer (since 1944 Field Marshal) and during World War II Army and Army Group Commander and Commander in Chief West briefly. He was among army officers as a supporter of Hitler.

Otto von Schrader (born March 18, 1888 in Lyck, East Prussia, † 19 July 1945 in Bergen, Norway(suicide) was a German naval officer, Admiral during World War II

Alfred Gutknecht (June 20, 1888 Badingen, Stendal, † November 12, 1946 in Berlinb (suicide) was a German general in the Wehrmacht.

Otto von Stülpnagel (June 16, 1878 in Berlin † 6 February 1948 in Paris( suicide)) was Luftwaffe General and General of infantry in the German Wehrmacht. From October 1940 to February 1942 he was a "military commander of France" (MBF), the subordinate, most areas of the occupied part of France.

Also the following uboat-commanders do not belong to this topic IMO:
Carlo Fecia di Cossato (September 25, 1908 in Rome, † 27 August 1944 in Naples(suicide)) was an Italian naval officer.
Werner Henke (born May 13, 1909 in Torun, † 15 June 1944 in Fort Hunt in Alexandria (Virginia)(suicide)) was a German naval officer and submarine commander in World War II


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Re: SS and Nazi war criminals deaths in custody.

Postby stril » 31 Aug 2009 14:46

Hello
I dont understand the writing below:
The moderator had to disconnect the following Generals/Admirals.
They do not belong to the superordinate concept "war criminals" in this context !!
It should not be allowed to measure everything by the same yardstick !!

And this admiral :
Otto von Schrader (born March 18, 1888 in Lyck, East Prussia, † 19 July 1945 in Bergen, Norway(suicide) was a German naval officer, Admiral during World War II

Why is he not regarded as a war criminal by Dieter Z.
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