OL SS-Hstuf. Karl Kloskowski Bio

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OL SS-Hstuf. Karl Kloskowski Bio

Post by Hardigan » 26 Jun 2007 21:37

Hello all

Does somebody have a complete bio of Panzer-ace OL recipient SS-Hstuf. Karl Kloskowski of the "DR" Division with all his awards ? Especially I want to know if he had the PzKAbz. (sonderstufe ?) because there's no mention of it anywere. I can't believe that he didn't earn the PzKAbz. !

And if you got any pictures of him please post it or send them to

hardig3@hotmail.com

Thanks a lot

Hardigan



the picture is a copy which is mine
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Post by Mark C. Yerger » 26 Jun 2007 23:07

See pages 301-305 in volume 1, "German Cross Holders of the SS and Police."

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Post by HM » 27 Jun 2007 07:49

Hardigan,

03.07.1941 Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Bronze
19.07.1941 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
02.10.1941 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
16.11.1941 Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz
20.08.1942 Medaille Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42
11.07.1943 Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes
15.11.1943 Nennung im Ehrenblatt des Deutschen Heeres
12.12.1943 Verwundetenabzeichen in Silber
23.05.1944 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold
13.07.1944 Panzer-Kampfabzeichen in Silber II. Stufe(25).
11.08.1944 Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes(546)

source: SS-Personalakte

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Post by Hardigan » 27 Jun 2007 09:21

Both thanks for the info ,

He had the PzKAbz. "25" allready in July '44 , so this Panzer-ace must have had a higher number too. I'm really curious.

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Post by bake » 27 Jun 2007 20:32

Any idea who personally bestowed the Eichenlaub to him?

Dietrich, Himmler??????

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Post by Hardigan » 27 Jun 2007 21:13

Here's a very clear picture of Kloskowski posted by Tim Will in the forum
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Post by Marc Rikmenspoel » 28 Jun 2007 19:08

It is known that Kloskowski was killed on or about April 23, 1945 in the Harz Mountains. I have read somewhere that Kloskowski was likely shot in captivity after surrendering, as part of the fall out over the death of Maurice Rose three weeks earlier.

Rose, the commander of the American 3rd Armored Division, was captured by an element of the SS-Panzerbrigade Westfalen on March 30, 1945, and one way or another, was shot (the prevailing story is that he reached for his pistol to drop it to the ground, and a trigger-happy German shot him in the mistaken belief that he was reaching for the pistol to use it). While research by the veterans of schwere Panzer abt. 507 indicates that Rose in fact met his fate in an encounter with part of their battalion, the belief among American soldiers at the time was that "Rose was killed by the SS," since the sPA 507 was attached to SS-PB Westfalen, and the Americans believed the unit to be entirely Waffen-SS.

I can no longer remember where I read the suggestion that Kloskowski was shot in captivity, but the line of reasoning was that after Rose's death on March 30th, near Paderborn, the US 3rd Armored Division made a point of shooting many or most of the Waffen-SS men it captured (men who would have been, like Kloskowski, survivors of SS-PB Westfalen). Does this description ring a bell with anyone about where i would have read this? Does it seem authentic? I don't have Tieke's booklet on the Westfalen (available as an e-book in English from Fedorowicz), but does he discuss this?

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 28 Jun 2007 19:57

Mark, have a look in here :wink:

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Post by Marc Rikmenspoel » 29 Jun 2007 07:35

Ah yes! Thank you for that reminder, they say the memory is the second thing you lose with old age. I can no longer remember the first....

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 29 Jun 2007 07:52

By, the way, must try to dig out my copy of this Tieke this Weekend, don't know where I left it after the last great "reorganization" of my collection...

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Post by Hardigan » 09 Jul 2007 11:11

Kloskowski on the cover of a magazine in June '44
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Post by Hardigan » 09 Jul 2007 11:20

And here you can see his PzIV 'Befehlswagen' with number 779 after the battle in Normandy
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Post by Hardigan » 09 Jul 2007 11:22

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Post by Charles Trang » 09 Jul 2007 11:33

What is sure is that the men of the 3rd US Armored Division seemed to be very trigger happy. During the Normandy fight around a village named Rânes, they systematically shot every SS prisoner who fell in their hands, as to believe the US vets' testimonies. This followed a crime commited by an SS patrol belonging to the 1.SS-Pz.Div. (or was it to the 10.SS-Pz.Div. ?) : having captured 6 US soldiers, (among them, a very popular officer within the 3rd US Armored Division) they shot 5 of them, the 6th achieving to escape his fate. This cruel episode led to harsh reprisals by the american troops. In the village of Fremontel (I don't remember exactly the name of the place), villagers found the bodies of 25 dead SS soldiers, most of them having been killed by baionets or knives.

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Post by Hardigan » 09 Jul 2007 13:38

You can see the PzIV of Kloskowski direct behind this SS-vehicle .
These pictures came from the site 'missing-lynx.com'
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