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Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Waffen211 » 01 Oct 2008, 19:42

Someone help me in completing Command rooster of Brigade and Division Nederland? i'm not sure about name in period succession of commander of vary unit and date from begin of is command. Thanks in advance to all.

Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

4.SS-Freiwilligen Panzergrenadierbrigade 'Nederland'

Brigade commander: Brigf. Jürgen Wagner
Adjutant: Stubaf. Steenhold-Schütt

Ia: Stubaf. Dietrich Ziemssen
Hstuf. Kordts
Stubaf. Jürgen von Bock
Stubaf. Hartmann
Reinhardt Wörner


Ib: Ustuf. Bläss (incl. V)
H. van 't Hof
Ostuf. Graf
Stubaf. Günther Noatzke
Hstuf. Fritz Beist
Ostuf. Walter Heggblum


PzGrenRgt. 48 'General Seyffardt'

Ostubaf. Josef Fitzthum
Ostubaf. Wolfgang Joerchel
Ostubaf. Richard Benner †
Ostubaf. Massell †
? Fritz Knochlein
Ostubaf. Garzhe
Ostubaf. Siegfried Scheibe †

I./48: Stubaf. Fritz Geiger
? Hans Joachim Rühle von Lilienstern
Hstuf. Fritz Tröger
Stubaf. Betzwieser
Hstuf. Wolfgang Vieweger

II./48: Stubaf. Breymann †
? Kurt Wald


III./48: Stubaf. Geiger
? Grafhorst
? Hans Joachim Rühle von Lilienstern
? Hans Reigl


PzGrenRgt. 49 'De Ruyter'

Ostubaf. Hans Collani †
Stubaf. Pritz Bunse
Ostubaf. Hans Heinrich Lohmann 11.11.44
Ostubaf. Rudi Klotz

I./49: Hstuf. Voorwinden
? Mosenthin
Stubaf. Franz Lang
Hstuf. Hans Meyer
Stubaf. Walther
Stubaf. Gerhard Unger
? Rehder
Ostubaf. Bunse


II./49: ? Göttsche
Hstuf. Bürmester †
Hstuf. Walter Diener †
Hstuf. Carl Heinz Frühauf
Ostuf. Helmut Scholz
Hstuf. K.H. Ertel
Stubaf. Otto Petersen

Artillerie Regiment 54

Staf. Diebitsch
Stubaf. Schlüter
Stubaf. Hofer

I./ArtRgt 54 10,5cm: Stubaf. Joseph Rüschoff
Hstuf. Singer

II./ArtRgt 54 l.FH 18: Hstuf. Topeters †
Hstuf. Quintus de Veer
Hstuf. Anton Aigner


III./ArtRgt 54 sFH / FlaK: Stubaf. Lothar Hofer

Aufklärungs Kompanie 54

? Erich Kuhne
Hstuf. Hillenbrandt †
Ostuf. Rosenbeck

Pionier Btl. 54
Stubaf. Wendtlant
? Werner
Hstuf. Carl-Heinz Frühauf
? Adolf Wolff
? Günther Wanhöfer
Hstuf. Ilgner

Panzerjäger Abt. 54 – StuG

Stubaf. Knud Schock
? Arthur Grathwol
? Anton Aigner
Hstuf. Kraus
? Diener
? Philip Rössner

Sanitäts Abteilung 54
Stubaf. Dr. van Heutsz
Hstuf. Dr. Krey
Dr. Loderhose
Dr. Kletnakin

Nachrichten Kompanie 54
Hstuf. Wilhem Thissen
Hstuf. Schuler
Ustuf. Katoll

FlaK Kompanie 54

Ustuf. Nieuwendijk-Hoek
Ustuf. Edmont Le Roux
Hstuf. Grim
Lt. Ahrens

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Re: Command Rooster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Pena V » 01 Oct 2008, 20:52

Waffen 211,

Here is what I have:

Lineage
?? Jul 1941 - 24 Sep 1941 SS-Freiwilligen-Verband Niederlande
24 Sep 1941 - 22 Oct 1943 SS-Freiwilligen-Legion Niederlande
22 Oct 1943 - 01 Aug 1944 4. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Brigade Nederland
01 Aug 1944 - 10 Feb 1945 SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Brigade Nederland
10 Feb 1945 - 08 May 1945 23. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division Nederland

Commander of Brigade / Division
?? Oct 1943 - 01 May 1945 Jürgen Wagner

Commanders of SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 48 General Seyffardt
20 May 1943 - 03 Nov 1943 Josef Fizhum -> SSPF Albanien
08 Jan 1944 - ?? Jul 1944 Wolfgang Joerchel -> SS-Junkerschule Prag
?? Jul 1944 - 27 Jul 1944 Richard Benner -> KIA
29 Jul 1944 - ?? ??? ???? Siegfried Scheibe -> ?
?? ??? ??? - 02 Feb 1945 Paul Massel -> KIA
?? ??? 1945 - 17 Apr 1945 Siegfried Scheibe -> ?

Commanders of SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 49 De Ruiter
01 Aug 1943 - 29 Jul 1944 Hans Collani -> KIA
29 Jul 1944 - 05 Aug 1944 Karl-Heinz Ertel -> ?
05 Aug 1944 - 08 Nov 1944 Fritz Bunse -> ill
08 Nov 1944 - 10 Mar 1945 Hans Lohmann -> ?
11 Mar 1945 - 07 Apr 1945 Rudolf Klotz -> ?
07 Apr 1945 - 08 May 1945 Hans Lohmann

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Re: Command Rooster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Waffen211 » 01 Oct 2008, 22:58

Thanks Pena. Why about this division there is more difficulty about unit's commanders? i'm waiting info about Battalion's commander. thanks in advance.

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Post by Waffen211 » 03 Oct 2008, 22:35

Hallo friends, anyone will help me!!!!

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I./48: Stubaf. Fritz Geiger

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Post by Waffen211 » 08 Oct 2008, 16:11

I dot not try info about this officer in Nara e Bundes Archiv documents, someone help me?

I./48: Stubaf. Fritz Geiger

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Re: Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by freddiefro » 08 Oct 2008, 17:42

Waffen211,

Here’s a little about Fritz Geiger:

Geiger, Fritz
SS-Obersturmbannführer
Born: 07.02.1911 in München
Died: 13.08.1974
NSDAP Nr.: 1 059 405
SS Nr.: 60 675
SS-Ustuf: 20.04.1935; SS-Ostuf: 20.04.1936; SS-Hstuf: 20.04.1939; SS-Stubaf: ?; SS-Ostubaf: 21.06.1944

Junkerschule Tölz: 1934
1./Nachr.Abt. SS-VT: 04.1935
9./Sta,"Deutschland": 04.1935
II./SS-"Deutschland": (1938 DAL)
Chef,6./Pz.GR.3."Deutschland": 05.1939
Kdr.I./Pz.GR.48: 06.1944
Kdr.Pz.GR.19./SS-"Hohenstaufen": (1944 WSS DAL)
Kdr.Pz.GR.20./SS-"Hohenstaufen": 03.1945

(Sources: 1938 DAL, 1944 WSS DAL, John P. Moore’s “Führerliste der Waffen-SS”)

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Re: Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Giorgio » 09 Oct 2008, 15:55

Waffen 211,
On Fritz Geiger I wish to add my data too:

SS-Sturmbannführer: 21 June 1942

With JS Braunschweig in 1942.

SS-Obersturmbannführer & Commander of SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 20 (*)/9.SS-Panzer-Division “Hohenstaufen”: 10-23 July 1944. (He succeeded SS-Sturmbannführer Rudolf Gruber).
(*) Former <SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 2> until October 1943.

With SS-FHA in 1944 .

SS-Obersturmbannführer & Commander of SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 19/9.SS-Panzer-Division “Hohenstaufen”: 23 July 1944- ? February 1945. (He succeeded SS-Sturmbannführer Emil Zollhöfer).

SS-Obersturmbannführer & temporary Commander of SS-Panzergrenadier-Regi¬ment “Norge”/11.SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division “Nordland”: 01-08 January 1945. (Succeeding SS-Obersturmbannführer Fritz Knöchlein).

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Post by Mikedc » 09 Oct 2008, 18:21

And I can add this:
He received the 1939 EK II, the 1939 EK I and the KVK II. Klasse


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Re: Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Mikedc » 09 Oct 2008, 18:49

Hello Waffen211,

Here I've some Bataillon commanders for you.
October 43/October 44:
48. SS-Regiment
I. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Hans-Joachim Rühle von Lilienstern(3-11-43/??-44).
II. Btl.: SS-Stubaf Helmut Breymann(??-44 till 28-7-44).
III. Btl.: ??

49. SS-Regiment:
I. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Eduard Voorwinden(??-12-43/??-44).
II. Btl.: SS-Stubaf Karl August Götsche(1-44), SS-Hstuf Walter Diener(??-44 till 14-3-44), SS-Hstuf Carl-Heinz Frühauf(14-3-44/??-44), SS-Ustuf Helmut Scholz(temporarily ??-44/??-44)and SS-Hstuf Kar-Heinz Ertel(temporarily ??-44/??-44).
III. Btl.: ??

October 44/February 45:
SS-Regiment 48:
I. Btl.: ??
II. Btl.: ??

SS-Regiment 49:
I. Btl.: SS-Stubaf Franz Lang(??-44/10-44)and SS-Stubaf Hanns-Heinrich Lohmann(10-44/??-45).
II. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Helmut Scholz(2-45/??-45).

February 45/May 45:
SS-Regiment 48:
I. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Wolfgang Vieweger(2-45)and SS-Stubaf Friedrich Tröger(4-45).
II. Btl.: ??

SS-Regiment 49:
I. Btl.: ??
II. Btl.: ??


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Re: Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Phil Nix » 10 Oct 2008, 12:05

Mikedc wrote:Hello Waffen211,

Here I've some Bataillon commanders for you.
October 43/October 44:
48. SS-Regiment
I. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Hans-Joachim Rühle von Lilienstern(3-11-43/??-44).
II. Btl.: SS-Stubaf Helmut Breymann(??-44 till 28-7-44).
III. Btl.: ??

49. SS-Regiment:
I. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Eduard Voorwinden(??-12-43/??-44).
II. Btl.: SS-Stubaf Karl August Götsche(1-44), SS-Hstuf Walter Diener(??-44 till 14-3-44), SS-Hstuf Carl-Heinz Frühauf(14-3-44/??-44), SS-Ustuf Helmut Scholz(temporarily ??-44/??-44)and SS-Hstuf Kar-Heinz Ertel(temporarily ??-44/??-44).
III. Btl.: ??

October 44/February 45:
SS-Regiment 48:
I. Btl.: ??
II. Btl.: ??

SS-Regiment 49:
I. Btl.: SS-Stubaf Franz Lang(??-44/10-44)and SS-Stubaf Hanns-Heinrich Lohmann(10-44/??-45).
II. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Helmut Scholz(2-45/??-45).

February 45/May 45:
SS-Regiment 48:
I. Btl.: SS-Hstuf Wolfgang Vieweger(2-45)and SS-Stubaf Friedrich Tröger(4-45).
II. Btl.: ??

SS-Regiment 49:
I. Btl.: ??
II. Btl.: ??


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Hi Mike
Helmut Breymann was succeeded by Friedrich Tröger II/48
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Re: Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Waffen211 » 10 Oct 2008, 12:23

New info added thanks to all friends of Forum

Regard to I./48

Rühle von Lilienstern (nov '43 - June '44)
Stubaf. Fritz Geiger (june '44)
Stubaf. Fritz Betzwiser (june - July '44)
????????????????????????????????????
SS-Hstuf. Vieweger (feb '45)
SS-Stubaf. Fritz Tröger (Apr '45)


Regard to SS-Art.Rgt. 54

Staf Karl Diebitsch (- Nov '43)
SS-Obf- Kurt Brasack (10 nov '43 - 20 May 44)
SS-Stubaf. Schlüters (June '44 - ?)
?????

Someone have major info?

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Re: Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Mikedc » 10 Oct 2008, 12:59

Hello Phil,

I've Tröger as CO from Stabskompanie with 48. SS-Regiment in July 1944.
So when you're correct, which I don't doubt, he was CO from II. Btl./48. SS-Regiment at the same time. And did he stayed in command of this Btl. till he switched over to command the I. Btl. in April 1945 or not???

Waffen211, thanks for giving the name of Stubaf Betzwiser, don't have him in my files yet.
Regarding the SS-Art.-Rgt. 54 I've the following:
SS-Stubaf Wilhelm Schlüter(CO 8-44).


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Post by Pena V » 10 Oct 2008, 14:09

My files show Karl Diebitsch as CO of Flak-Abteilung / III Korps 15 Apr 1943 - 01 Dec 1943. Did he command two units or is one of the alternatives wrong?

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Stubaf. Karl Betzweiser

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Post by Waffen211 » 10 Oct 2008, 18:19

Excuse me for error not is Stubaf. Fritz Betzwiser

but Karl Betzweiser

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Re: Command Roster of SS-Brigade Nederland

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Post by Giorgio » 10 Oct 2008, 22:43

Hello Waffen-211
Excuse me for error not is Stubaf. Fritz Betzwiser but Karl Betzweiser
Betzweiser or Betzwieser ?
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