Request for Identification of SS-officers

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by von thoma » 23 Jan 2022 07:16

Is it possible to identify more SS leaders in the background ?
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Giovanni59 » 25 Jan 2022 10:47

Photo of an SS-Hauptsturmführer of which I have his photo album, he also served in the SS-Gebirgsjager in the Balkans and perhaps in the SD. Unfortunately there is no name and no precise indication of the units.
Who knows if it is possible to identify him?
Or even just recognize the location?
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Hauptf SS.Gebirgsjäger - Pag 23 - foto 63R2 115.jpg
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Peter » 25 Jan 2022 12:32

Do you have a clue on the date ?

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Giovanni59 » 25 Jan 2022 13:22

Peter wrote:
25 Jan 2022 12:32
Do you have a clue on the date ?
Unfortunately no notes on the album. Certainly WW2 period.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Ivan Ž. » 25 Jan 2022 14:10

Hello, Giovanni

Are you sure the album's much related to the Balkans? The bottom two photos remind of Tyrol, and one of the previous ones you posted was taken in Germany (this one). Maybe the original album owner had something to do with the mountain school in Predazzo, or in Neustift. Just a thought. It's hard making a solid conclusion based on just a couple of photos.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Giovanni59 » 25 Jan 2022 14:19

Ivan Ž. wrote:
25 Jan 2022 14:10
Hello, Giovanni

Are you sure the album's much related to the Balkans? The bottom two photos remind of Tyrol, and one of the previous ones you posted was taken in Germany (this one). Maybe the original album owner had something to do with the mountain school in Predazzo, or in Neustift. Just a thought. It's hard making a solid conclusion based on just a couple of photos.

Cheers,
Ivan
There are a lot of photos in the Balkans. In this photo the officer to be identified, with the rank of SS-Untersturmführer, is in front of the well-known Mostar bridge in Bosnia.
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Ivan Ž. » 25 Jan 2022 14:27

Yup, that's Mostar all right! Thanks for the additional image. No name comes to my mind regarding this face, unfortunately. The blank collar patches were worn (besides the SD) by the first two Balkan SS divisions (7th and 13th), but only briefly and seldomly, before they received their own unit patches (and none of them were stationed in Bosnia at the time). So I doubt this man belonged to those units, based on his patch (but who knows). The mountain boots, on the other hand, were supplied to a number of units in the Balkans, regardless of them being officially mountain units or not. So this can make the unit possibilities quite wide. That's all I can add at this point, sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Ivan Ž. » 25 Jan 2022 14:55

Ha! I've just realised that this photo, which appeared online and on the forum years ago (unfortunately I never found out the initial source), shows the same officer :) Does the image appear in your album as well?

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Giovanni59 » 25 Jan 2022 16:14

Ivan Ž. wrote:
25 Jan 2022 14:55
Ha! I've just realised that this photo, which appeared online and on the forum years ago (unfortunately I never found out the initial source), shows the same officer :) Does the image appear in your album as well?


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No, there is no this image in my album, but the soldier behind the officer looks like the one in the first photo of my post.
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Ivan Ž. » 25 Jan 2022 16:39

Cheers (he reminded me of him as well).

A note regarding the possibility of them being SD/Sipo men: police units with mountain troops insignia and equipment was something that was relatively common within HSSPF Alpenland (they used both Heer and SS mountain insignia). See an example below:

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(Source: Nemačka obaveštajna služba, vol. III)

I haven't come across police troops dressed like that in pictures from the NDH (i.e. Bosnia). Nevertheless, I don't suggest that the people from your pictures belonged to the Alpenland police forces (we can also see a Sigrunen collar patch in one of the previous photos, atypical for Rösener's policemen). I have a feeling that they're something "new" (for us). And maybe they aren't! It would surely be useful to examine more photos from the album. Thanks for posting anyway, a very interesting set of images.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Giovanni59 » 25 Jan 2022 20:37

Ivan Ž. wrote:
25 Jan 2022 16:39
Cheers (he reminded me of him as well).

A note regarding the possibility of them being SD/Sipo men: police units with mountain troops insignia and equipment was something that was relatively common within HSSPF Alpenland (they used both Heer and SS mountain insignia). See an example below:


HSSPFAexample.jpg
(Source: Nemačka obaveštajna služba, vol. III)

I haven't come across police troops dressed like that in pictures from the NDH (i.e. Bosnia). Nevertheless, I don't suggest that the people from your pictures belonged to the Alpenland police forces (we can also see a Sigrunen collar patch in one of the previous photos, atypical for Rösener's policemen). I have a feeling that they're something "new" (for us). And maybe they aren't! It would surely be useful to examine more photos from the album. Thanks for posting anyway, a very interesting set of images.

Ivan
Thanks for the info.
I can still add that the officer to be identified used the car with this strange sunflower symbol with EK2:
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Giovanni

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Michal78 » 27 Jan 2022 20:47

Any idea who is SS Arzt with collar tabs of SS-Sturmbannführer?

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Giovanni59 » 28 Jan 2022 12:56

Can anyone identify what I think is a Polizei general in the center of the photo?
No date and place.
From my photo album.
Thanks for the replies.
Giovanni
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Totenkomf » 28 Jan 2022 13:06

Giovanni59 wrote:
28 Jan 2022 12:56
Can anyone identify what I think is a Polizei general in the center of the photo?
No date and place.
From my photo album.
Thanks for the replies.
Giovanni

Karl Schümers - Pag 8 - foto 29R 138.jpg
I think that he is not a simple Polizei Offizier but a member of the German Customs Service or the: "Zollgrenzschutz".




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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Totenkomf » 28 Jan 2022 13:12

Giovanni59 wrote:
28 Jan 2022 12:56
Can anyone identify what I think is a Polizei general in the center of the photo?
No date and place.
From my photo album.
Thanks for the replies.
Giovanni

Karl Schümers - Pag 8 - foto 29R 138.jpg
He is most likely a Zollfinazrat/Zollamitmann= Major.

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