SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

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SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Semenov » 02 Apr 2009 15:23

Hello!
Who is it? He served with Zeppelin Hauptkommando "Russland-Süd"?

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by steve248 » 03 Apr 2009 20:46

I have three possible SS-Untersturmführer with RSHA VI C/Z operations working out of the Crimea, stationed at Eupatoria/Jewpatoria throughout 1942:

SS-Ustuf Werner Girgensohn (SS-Ostuf 9.11.1943)
SS-Ustuf Prössdorf
SS-Ustuf Korris

Which of the three is shown in the photos I have no idea.

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Semenov » 03 Apr 2009 21:48

Well, steve248, thanks for reply.
This ustuf. wears a Krim schield. In McLean book only officier with Krim schield was - ustuf. Schroer Wilhlem.

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by steve248 » 04 Apr 2009 08:24

Since you mentioned Unternehmen Zeppelin I gave you details of that organisation operating in the Crimea.

SS-Ustuf (SS-Ostuf from 9 Nov 1942) Dr Wilhelm Schroer was assigned to the staff of Einsatzgruppe D. His job was "Truppenbetreuung" and carried out propaganda work on behalf of Abteilung Ost/Propaganda Ministry. He
arrived in Simferopol in May 1942.

The photo in his SS-Officer file does show a spectacled man in civilian clothes. Although my photocopy is quite
dark (and small) and the spectacles he wears are different, his left ear looks similar. I am no expert on photos
and unable to say whether it is is Schroer or not.

What is the provenance of the photo?

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Semenov » 04 Apr 2009 09:07

steve248 wrote:Since you mentioned Unternehmen Zeppelin I gave you details of that organisation operating in the Crimea.
The photo in his SS-Officer file does show a spectacled man in civilian clothes. Although my photocopy is quite
dark (and small) and the spectacles he wears are different, his left ear looks similar. I am no expert on photos
and unable to say whether it is is Schroer or not.
You can put this picture here?
steve248 wrote:What is the provenance of the photo?
I did not understand your question :oops:

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Semenov » 05 Apr 2009 10:04

Now there is a perception that the officer later served in stab Armenian Battalion 809 and a cross on the pocket - Hungarian.

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by steve248 » 05 Apr 2009 12:04

This is the best I can do with a photo of Schroer from a photocopy from his SS-Officer File (Berlin Document Center). Schroer ended the war with the Wlassow Army in Prague as a propagandanist, May 1945.
schroer.JPG
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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by steve248 » 05 Apr 2009 12:06

By "provenance" this is a request for the origin of the photos you used.

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Semenov » 05 Apr 2009 12:51

steve248 wrote:By "provenance" this is a request for the origin of the photos you used.
It provenance - electron auction and my friend collection. All items at - http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=49028

Thanks for your reply and help.

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Semenov » 05 Apr 2009 18:37

Hi, Steve248!
where is the information that he had served in the ROA? In his personal file indicate whether the award? Do you think this photo with him?
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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Mikedc » 06 Apr 2009 21:49

Steve wrote:
SS-Ustuf Werner Girgensohn (SS-Ostuf 9.11.1943)
I've him as SS-Hstuf with the Sipo and SD in Posen.


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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Peter » 07 Apr 2009 08:43

Girgensohn, Werner
SS-Hstuf.
born 27 Dec 1914 in Riga

SS # 357 297
NSDAP # 8 537 664

Promoted SS-Hstuf on 20 Apr 1944
Sipo/SD Posen

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Mikedc » 07 Apr 2009 09:15

Hello Peter,

Thank you very much.
With the info I already had and with what Steve wrote down the gaps are filled...
I only wonder with his task was with the Sipo and SD in Posen...

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by Peter » 07 Apr 2009 12:50

Prössdorf, Werner
SS-Ustuf
born 11 Sep 1914 at Bornitz b. Zeiss

SS # 159 899
NSDAP # 1 318 150

Promoted SS-Ustuf on 1 Sep 1942
Sipo/SD
1945 SS-Ustuf SD

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Re: SS-Untersturmführer from "Unternehmen Zeppelin"

Post by steve248 » 08 Apr 2009 08:21

One needs to be careful with Girgensohns as there were two of them: Theodor and Werner. The documentation does not mention whether they were brothers, but I think it highly likely. Both served as SD-LA Posen and Theodor was SS-Hstuf earlier. Theodor did not (as far as I know) participate in Unternehmen Zeppelin.

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