Kurt Daluege
Kurt Daluege
Is it possible for him to have been born with syphilis because his father had it
Phil Nix
Phil Nix
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Re: Kurt Daluege
Dear Phil,
this is only possible if the mother had syphilis during her pregnancy. In this case the child will be born with congenital syphilis the so-called "lues connata". This illness is totally different to the common syphilis.
The lues connata is characterized by physical defects (saddle nose, severe dental defects, defects of the iris and others).
Often a poor aptitude is existent.
To cut a long story short: Kurt Daluege had surely no lues connata.
BTW: My own dissertation (doctorate) was about the syphilis.
Dieter Z.
this is only possible if the mother had syphilis during her pregnancy. In this case the child will be born with congenital syphilis the so-called "lues connata". This illness is totally different to the common syphilis.
The lues connata is characterized by physical defects (saddle nose, severe dental defects, defects of the iris and others).
Often a poor aptitude is existent.
To cut a long story short: Kurt Daluege had surely no lues connata.
BTW: My own dissertation (doctorate) was about the syphilis.
Dieter Z.
Re: Kurt Daluege
Thanks Dieter
Phil
Phil
Re: Kurt Daluege
Hi Phil
"The Nuremberg Interviews Conducted by Leon Goldenschon" - edited by Robert Gellately ISBN 1-8459-5014-3
Goldenschon was an American Psychiatrist and took extensive notes during his interviews with the major defendents and leading witness' in their cells during the Nuremberg Trials. Some he interviewed several times whilst others weren't so cooperative. The notes he made form the basis of the book and many of the people interviewed gave personal and family details.
Daluege was one of them and stated he inherited syphilis from his father but it went undetected until he was 36. He then took yearly treatments for the next 10 years. His father lived to be 73 and had syphilis for many years, Daluege said it never affected his health. He was told that for the type of syphilis he had it was not unusual for it to go undetected for many years without symptoms. His first 10 years of marriage was childless which he thought was to do with his condition but later produced 4/5 children.
Daluege described as unemotional must have been optimistic even at this time (26.01.1946). When asked by Goldenschon if there was anything he could do for him he said he would like another blood test as it had been nearly a year since his last test which was negative.
There are several other high ranking SS that were interviewed Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Sepp Dietrich, von dem Bach, Oswald Pohl, Walter Schellenburg, Otto Ohlendorf, Rudolf Hoess, Constantin von Neurath and Rudolf Mildner. I found this book quite interesting for the personal and family insights that were given and Goldenschon's assessment of their demeanor.
Any comments from other forum members who have read it?
And a question (or three)for Dieter
Daluege claims his father had syphilis, if so wouldn't he have passed it on to his wife and then to their children?
If not how did it pass from father to son and what type would it have been?
Daluege claimed his last test (presumably 1945) was negative so was it curable at this time or just in remission, seeing as how Germany didn't have Penicillin at this time?
Regards
Brian
"The Nuremberg Interviews Conducted by Leon Goldenschon" - edited by Robert Gellately ISBN 1-8459-5014-3
Goldenschon was an American Psychiatrist and took extensive notes during his interviews with the major defendents and leading witness' in their cells during the Nuremberg Trials. Some he interviewed several times whilst others weren't so cooperative. The notes he made form the basis of the book and many of the people interviewed gave personal and family details.
Daluege was one of them and stated he inherited syphilis from his father but it went undetected until he was 36. He then took yearly treatments for the next 10 years. His father lived to be 73 and had syphilis for many years, Daluege said it never affected his health. He was told that for the type of syphilis he had it was not unusual for it to go undetected for many years without symptoms. His first 10 years of marriage was childless which he thought was to do with his condition but later produced 4/5 children.
Daluege described as unemotional must have been optimistic even at this time (26.01.1946). When asked by Goldenschon if there was anything he could do for him he said he would like another blood test as it had been nearly a year since his last test which was negative.
There are several other high ranking SS that were interviewed Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Sepp Dietrich, von dem Bach, Oswald Pohl, Walter Schellenburg, Otto Ohlendorf, Rudolf Hoess, Constantin von Neurath and Rudolf Mildner. I found this book quite interesting for the personal and family insights that were given and Goldenschon's assessment of their demeanor.
Any comments from other forum members who have read it?
And a question (or three)for Dieter
Daluege claims his father had syphilis, if so wouldn't he have passed it on to his wife and then to their children?
If not how did it pass from father to son and what type would it have been?
Daluege claimed his last test (presumably 1945) was negative so was it curable at this time or just in remission, seeing as how Germany didn't have Penicillin at this time?
Regards
Brian
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Re: Kurt Daluege
The father, being in a contagious early stadium of his own syphilis, must have infected his wife. And this wife, the mother of our SS-Oberst-Gruppenführer, must have still been untreated during her pregnancy. Only in this case the then borned baby would have another development of the syphilis, the lues connata, with physic defects and itself is not contagious.BB-WA wrote: Daluege claims his father had syphilis, if so wouldn't he have passed it on to his wife and then to their children?
Regards
Brian
This is directly impossibleBB-WA wrote: If not how did it pass from father to son and what type would it have been?
Regards
Brian
If he was negative, he had no (and most likely never) lues connata and was never contagious.BB-WA wrote: Daluege claimed his last test (presumably 1945) was negative so was it curable at this time or just in remission, seeing as how Germany didn't have Penicillin at this time?
Regards
Brian
Germany didn't have penicillin then to heal the syphilis.
Dieter Z.
Re: Kurt Daluege
Hi Dieter
Thanks for the reply
Regards
Brian
Thanks for the reply
Regards
Brian