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Felix Steiner

Post by Lawrence » 29 Jan 2003 01:47

Could anyone give me a brief bio along with a photo or two of Felix Steiner? It'd be most grateful, regards!

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Post by Requin Marteau » 29 Jan 2003 17:00

SS OGRUF
Felix Martin Julius STEINER

- RITTERKREUZ, 15 août 1940,
Kommandeur SS IR «Deutschland»/SS Verfügungs-Division,
- EICHENLAUB, 23 décembre 1942, 159e soldat,
Division-Kommandeur 5. SS Panzer Grenadier Division «Wiking»,
- SCHWERTERN, 10 août 1944, 86e soldat,
Kommandierender General III. SS Germanische Panzer Korps.

Born on 23 May 1896 at Stallupönen in Prusse,
Arbitur : 9 March 1914,
Joint army on 5./Ostpreussische IR «von Boyen» Nr 41,
Leutnant (27 January 1915),
wounded on 14 November 1914,
Kriegsakademie/II. Armee Korps at Königsberg,
Ersatz Btn/IR 41 «von Boyen» (January-May 1916),
IR 376 (June-19 August 1916),
Kdr MG/Scharfschützetruppen Nr 97,
Kdr MG/Scharfschützetruppen Nr 46 in October 1916,
Oberleutnant (18 Octobrer 1918),
Kdr 3. Ersatz MG Kie/17. Armee Korps (November 1918-8 January 1919).

- EK-II (9 October 1914),
- Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz (3 September 1917),
- EK-I (3 November 1917).

Freiw Ost Preussische Trupp at Melmelland and Königsberg (January 1919-May 1920),
Reichswehr Service on 8 May 1920,
Kdr 2. (MG)/Schützen Rgt 2,
Kdr 8. (MG)/IR 1 (October 1920-20 September 1923),
Stab MG Offizier/IR 1 until March 1924,
Hauptmann (1 Decembrer 1927),
Adjutant IR 1 (October 1929-1 October 1933),
Offizier z.b.V. until December 1933,
Landespolizei,
NSDAP (4264295) and SA on 1 January 1934,
SA Sturmfhr (March 1934),
Kdr SA Ausbildungsamt until March 1935,
SS (253351) as SS OSTUBAF on 24 April 1935,
Kdr III./SS Standarte 1,
SS STAF (1 July 1936),
Kdr Deutschland,
SS OFHR (24 January 1940),
SS BRIG FHR (9 November 1940),
Kdr SS Div (mot) Germania (Wiking) on 1 December 1940,
SS GRUF (1 January 1942),
Kdr III. SS Pz Korps (November 1942-January 1943),
Kdr III. (germ) SS Pz Korps until 25 February 1944,
SS OGRUF (1 July 1943),
Kdr Armeegruppe STEINER (26 November 1944-26 January 1945),
Oberbefehlshaber Pz AOK 11 (5 February-5 March 1945),
Befehlshaber Auffang- und Erfassungsstab (Heeresgruppe Weichsel)(23 February-24 March 1945),
captured on 3 May 1945, release on 27 April 1948,
Died at Munich on 17 May 1966.

- Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern,
- Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13 März 1938,
- Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1 Oktober 1938,
- 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK-II (17 September 1939),
- 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK-I (26 September 1939),
- Ritterkreuz (15 August 1940),
- Deutsche Kreuz in Gold (22 April 1942),
- Ostmedaille,
- Finnische Orden des Freiheitskreuz 1. kl mit Eichenlaub u. mit - Schwertern (October 1942),
- Eichenlaub (23 December 1942),
- Schwertern (10 August 1944).

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Post by VJK » 29 Jan 2003 17:17

Hi!

Here's a picture of Felix Steiner.

Regards,

VJK
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Post by Lawrence » 30 Jan 2003 17:37

Thanks a lot guys! I was wondering, does anyone know if Steiner was a National Socialist and how he felt about Hitler and Himmler? And exactly what happened to him after the war? Thanks a lot!

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Post by Mark C. Yerger » 30 Jan 2003 22:55

A bachelor, was found dead (probable heart attack) in his apartment in 1966. An important personality and brave commander, as well as highly skilled. Never understood why his 2 books haven't been translated into English. Among the few with recollections and opinions from a senior Waffen-SS commander.

Mark

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Post by Panzermahn » 25 Feb 2005 04:21

Mark Yerger wrote:A bachelor, was found dead (probable heart attack) in his apartment in 1966. An important personality and brave commander, as well as highly skilled. Never understood why his 2 books haven't been translated into English. Among the few with recollections and opinions from a senior Waffen-SS commander.

Mark


Felix Steiner spoke excellent English

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Post by Miha Grcar » 25 Feb 2005 08:50

Panzermahn wrote:Felix Steiner spoke excellent English

Which still doesn't mean that he should write his memories in english don't you think?

best,
Nibelung

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Post by Max Williams » 25 Feb 2005 08:55

Nibelung wrote:
Panzermahn wrote:Felix Steiner spoke excellent English

Which still doesn't mean that he should write his memories in english don't you think?

best,
Nibelung


I think you'll find that the suggestion was for someone else to translate his books into English.
Max.

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Post by Max Williams » 25 Feb 2005 09:00

Kingsley wrote: I was wondering, does anyone know if Steiner was a National Socialist and how he felt about Hitler and Himmler?



Steiner was a National Socialist, joining the NSDAP and SA early in January 1934. He was a convinced member of the SS, but began to have doubts about the politics of Hitler during the war.
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Post by Panzermahn » 25 Feb 2005 12:55

Max History wrote:
Nibelung wrote:
Panzermahn wrote:Felix Steiner spoke excellent English

Which still doesn't mean that he should write his memories in english don't you think?

best,
Nibelung


I think you'll find that the suggestion was for someone else to translate his books into English.
Max.


It's better for a person to write his memoirs with his own mother tongue rather than other languages as he might not express his views with other languages...Of course...it is not impossible to write memoirs with other languages...but perhaps Steiner felt that as a German, it's a must for him to write in German rather than English

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Post by Panzermahn » 25 Feb 2005 12:56

Max History wrote:
Nibelung wrote:
Panzermahn wrote:Felix Steiner spoke excellent English

Which still doesn't mean that he should write his memories in english don't you think?

best,
Nibelung


I think you'll find that the suggestion was for someone else to translate his books into English.
Max.


It's better for a person to write his memoirs with his own mother tongue rather than other languages as he might not express his views with other languages...Of course...it is not impossible to write memoirs with other languages...but perhaps Steiner felt that as a German, it's a must for him to write in German rather than English

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Post by Max Williams » 25 Feb 2005 13:18

Panzermahn wrote:
Max History wrote:
Nibelung wrote:
Panzermahn wrote:Felix Steiner spoke excellent English

Which still doesn't mean that he should write his memories in english don't you think?

best,
Nibelung


I think you'll find that the suggestion was for someone else to translate his books into English.
Max.


It's better for a person to write his memoirs with his own mother tongue rather than other languages as he might not express his views with other languages...Of course...it is not impossible to write memoirs with other languages...but perhaps Steiner felt that as a German, it's a must for him to write in German rather than English


Nobody is disagreeing with you. The suggestion by Mark is that someone (not Steiner obviously) should translate his already German written memoirs into the English language. Nobody has suggested Steiner should have written them in any language other than his mother tongue.
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Post by Panzermahn » 25 Feb 2005 13:34

Okay, Max...i just flipped back to Cornelius Ryan's The Last Battle..At the photo page where the photo of Felix Steiner was shown, it was captioned that Felix Steiner was a Rhodes scholar in England back in the 20s..

The last time you told me that Steiner had never been to England or a Rhodes scholar...i believe you but i just wonder where did Ryan based his assumptions of Steiner being a Rhodes scholar?

Thanks.,.

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Post by Max Williams » 25 Feb 2005 15:14

Panzermahn wrote:Okay, Max...i just flipped back to Cornelius Ryan's The Last Battle..At the photo page where the photo of Felix Steiner was shown, it was captioned that Felix Steiner was a Rhodes scholar in England back in the 20s..

The last time you told me that Steiner had never been to England or a Rhodes scholar...i believe you but i just wonder where did Ryan based his assumptions of Steiner being a Rhodes scholar?

Thanks.,.



I actually said this........
Max History wrote:
Panzermahn wrote:
Dieter Zinke wrote:
Panzermahn wrote:Yup, I almost forgot..

Obergruppenfuhrer Felix Martin Julius Steiner spoke excellent English because he was a Rhodes scholar in England during the 20s


Panzermahn,

please give me a clearing up. I never heard about Steiner being a scholar in England. Are you sure ??

DZ


Source: Cornelius Ryan's The Last Battle


Sorry, but I don't think so. I found no reference to his being in England in the twenties. This non-academic source is somewhat dubious, to say the least.
Max.

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Post by J.M. » 26 Feb 2005 04:41

Greetings,
Here is an excellent picture of Felix Steiner. He was one of the finest officers Germany has ever produced. Sincerely, J.M.

[Sorry, JM, but had to delete that excellent picture as it is a copyright-protected photo- Mike Miller/ Moderator]

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