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Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by Harro » 14 Feb 2010 02:21

Looking for some biografical details about some teachers:

- SS-Hauptsturmführer Kobischke (Sport)
- SS-Standartenführer Schwedler (Taktik)
- SS-Sturmbannführer Götze (Truppendienst und Inf. Gefechtsdienst)
- SS-Hauptsturmführer Fick (weltanschauliche Schulung)

First names, date and place of birth, final rank, date and place of death, etc.

Also, apart from SA-Oberführer Hans Höflmayr, are more names known of those who teached the 1937/38 Lehrgang?

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by coburg22 » 14 Feb 2010 02:41

Hello,

SS-Brigadefuhrer Hans Schwedler:
Served in WWI.
Born: 17.10.78
Partei: 455899
SS: 60740
Junkerschule Toelz (1.12.37 SS DAL)
SS-Fuhrungshauptamt (9.11.44 SS DAL)
SS-Untersturmfuhrer: 31.7.33
SS-Obesturmfuhrer: 9.11.33
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer: 20.4.34
SS-Sturmbannfuhrer: 20.4.35
SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer: 1.1.36
SS-Standartenfuhrer:
SS-Oberfuhrer:
SS-Brigadefuhrer: 9.11.42 (Generalmajor der W-SS)

War Merti Cross 1st and 2nd class without Swords
1914 Iron Cross 1st and 2nd class
1914 Wound Badge in Black
Cross of Honor
Degen / Ring

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by coburg22 » 14 Feb 2010 02:52

SS-Standartenfuhrer Hans-Friedemann Goetze:
Born: 3.11.97
Served in WWI.
Partei: none
SS: 281771
Junkerschule Toelz (1.12.37 SS DAL)
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer: 15.5.37 (Skipped SS-Ustuf. and SS-Ostuf.)
SS-Sturmbannfuhrer: 12.9.37
SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer:
SS-Standartenfuhrer:
Kdr. SS-Heimwehr Danzig
Kdr. SS-Totenkopf Inf. Rgt. 3 / Totenkopf
KIA France 1940.
1939 Wound Badge in Gold (posth.)
Danzig Cross 1st class
1914 Iron Cross 2nd class
1914 Wound Badge in Black
Cross of Honor
Reich Sports Badge in Silver
SA-Sports Badge
German Horseman's Badge in Bronze

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by Camp Upshur » 14 Feb 2010 07:19

Hey Timo

Hope this helps: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=102503

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by Harro » 14 Feb 2010 16:07

Super, this certainly helps. In addition, would anybody know (or know where to find) information about Fick and more specifically about the way he taught his students Weltanschauung? Seems he later became SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS und Inspekteur für weltanschauliche Schulung in der Waffen-SS so I suppose information about his views must be available?

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by coburg22 » 14 Feb 2010 18:03

Hello Harro,
Ernst Wilhelm Fick:
SS-Brigadefuhrer u. Generalmajor der W-SS
Born: 05.2.98
Partei: 124087
SS: 2853
Served in WWI
RuSHA (1.7.35 SS-DAL)
Junkerschule Toelz (1.12.37 SS-DAL)
Kdr. SS-Ausbildungs L. Sennheim (30.1.42 SS-DAL)
SS-Hauptamt Insp. W.K. (9.11.44 SS-DAL)
SS-Brigadefuhrer: 30.1.44
SS-Oberfuhrer:
SS-Standartenfuhrer: 30.1.42
SS-Obesturmbannfuhrer: 13.9.36
SS-Sturmbannfuhrer: 8.5.35
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer: 20.4.34
SS-Obersturmfuhrer: 10.1.34
SS-Untersturmfuhrer: 30.3.31

1939 Clasp to the 1914 Iron Cross 2nd class
War Merit Cross 1st and 2nd class with Swords
1914 Iron Cross 2nd class
Cross of Honor
Reich Sports Badge in Bronze
SA-Sports Badge
Degen / Ring

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by radevich » 15 Feb 2010 10:29

coburg22 wrote:Hello,

SS-Brigadefuhrer Hans Schwedler:

SS-Standartenfuhrer: 30-1-1938

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by radevich » 15 Feb 2010 10:37

coburg22 wrote:SS-Standartenfuhrer Hans-Friedemann Goetze:


SS-Staf.: 01.09.1939

KIA 27.05.1940 Le Paradies France

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by radevich » 15 Feb 2010 10:41

coburg22 wrote:Ernst Wilhelm Fick:


SS-Oberf.: 30.01.43;

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by Harro » 15 Feb 2010 15:38

radevich wrote:
coburg22 wrote:Hello,

SS-Brigadefuhrer Hans Schwedler:

SS-Standartenfuhrer: 30-1-1938

Great, that explain why my source for the 1937/38 Lehrgang refers to him as both Obersturmbannführer and Standartenführer.

BTW, does anybody have details about an SS-Hauptsturmführer Lang, Führer der I. Schulabteilung der SS Junkerschule Tölz Lehrgang 1937/38?

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by Mikedc » 15 Feb 2010 19:23

Ernst Otto Fick
Born in Kirchdorf
Joined NSDAP in the winter of 1928/1929
Joined the Allgemeine-SS in February 1930
From January 1935 till ?? he served with I. Sturmbann from SS-Standarte 'Deutschland'.
Promoted to SS-Oberführer on 30-1-1943
From January 1944 till 29-4-1945 he was Inspektor für die Gesamte weltanschauliche Erziehung in der SS und Polizei
From January 1945 till 29-4-1945 he was also head of Amtsgruppe C(Erziehung)within the SS-Hauptamt
Died(KIA)on 29-4-1945 near Berlin

Nachname: Fick
Vorname: Ernst Otto
Dienstgrad: Generalmajor
Geburtsdatum: 05.02.1898
Geburtsort:
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 29.04.1945
Todes-/Vermisstenort:
Ernst Otto Fick ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Obermeitingen-Schwabstadl (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) .
Endgrablage: Grab 489


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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by coburg22 » 15 Feb 2010 22:37

Hello Harro,

Franz Lang:
Born: 28.02.07
Partei: 441135
SS: 8853
Junkerschule Toelz (1.12.37 SS DAL)
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer: 12.9.37
SS-Obersturmfuhrer: 9.11.33
SS-Untersturmfuhrer: 25.9.32
Reich Sports Badge in Bronze
SA-Sports Badge
Degen / Ring

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by Mikedc » 15 Feb 2010 23:48

Hello James,
Thanks for the info on Lang, didn't know he was Führer der I. Schulabteilung der SS Junkerschule Tölz Lehrgang 1937/38.
Here some more info about Franz Lang.
From ?? 1936 till October 1936 he commanded SS-Reiterstandarte 19.
From October 1936 till May 1937 he commanded SS-Reiterstandarte 15.


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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by coburg22 » 16 Feb 2010 01:09

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your info. I checked the 1.10.44 SS DAL regarding Lang:

SS-Sturmbannfuhrer: 9.11.42
Kdr. Feld. E. Btl. 11 / Nordland.
1939 Iron Cross 2nd class
1914 Wound Badge in Black

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Re: Bad Tölz 1937/38...

Post by Harro » 16 Feb 2010 13:28

Absolutely superb info. This allows me to detail who teached and as such influenced Knittel and the other 1937/38 students at Tölz. What is known about Fick's views? Obviously the usual nazi antisemitic Herrenvolk jibjab but it would be interesting to have something on paper about what he actually taught his students.

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