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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by TH Albright » 23 Mar 2010 17:29

Hi all....did 4 SS Totenkopfstandarte "Ostmark" perform the guard troop function at the new KL Mauthausen for the first part of its existence in 1938-1939? Most research implies as much, but there doesn't seem to be the connection that the first three SS-TK standarten had with their respective KLs.

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 23 Mar 2010 17:35

Hello TH Albright,

From everything I have ever read on the Ostmark Standarte, they did perform guard duties at Mauthausen at least at the beginning.

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by TH Albright » 23 Mar 2010 17:49

Thanks! A little googling revealed this
http://books.google.com/books?id=UlaMs- ... en&f=false


It appears that "Ostmark" supplied some guard troops until August 31 1939, when the KL Verstarkung Mauthausen was stood up as the designated guard unit for the camp. Later the guard force expanded and became Totenkopfsturmbann Mauthausen and Gusen in early November 1939; Markus Habben first commanded the later unit. There appears, due to the nature of the dual camps, outlying quarries and outside labor details, more interaction between the actual guard personnel, as opposed to command staff and labor detail SS personnel, than at other camps. The brutal Class III regime of these camps was reflected in the treatment guard personnel meeted out to prisoners in the quarries and the march to and from both quarries. Eugen Kogon, who wrote extensively about KL Buchenwald, noted that the guard personnel there had little direct contact with the prisoners and during the war at least, were not predisposed to brutality. The detail leaders and Kapos were the terror of the work sites at that camp.

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by Mikedc » 23 Mar 2010 18:23

TH Albright wrote(on page 2 of this thread):
apologize for the Caps..this was "cut" directly from the database...these are SS-TV officer who served in the pre-war SS-VT and were transferred to the SS-TV; the little "e" is for enlisted and the "o" for officer..also graduates of SS-JS are included..many notable wartime figures..19 of these men served in camp staff/administration positions, the rest served exclusively in the guard units..Max Pausch was Schutzhaftlagerfuhrer at Gusen II 1944-45..Kurt Launer, a famous W-SS officer, was commandant of the "moor" camp Schless-Osterstein in 1933...Wilil Duschenshoen was also a "moor" camp kommandant during this period at Papen and Fuhlsbuettel. Kunstler, Goecke and Foerschner were "famous" kommandants during the war.
ANDRESEN, OTTO 1 SS-VT?
ARNOLD, ALFRED 1 SS-VTe JSBS
BAIER, LORENZ 1 SS-VTe JSBT
BAUER, RUDOLPH 1 SS-VTe JSBT
BECKER, HELMUT 1 SS-VT
BELLWIDT, WALTER 1 SS-VT
BENZ, KURT 1 SS-VT
BESCH, ULRICH 1 SS-VTe JSBS
BIESEMEYER, ERNST 1 SS-VTe
BLUMHARDT, HERBERT 1 SS-VTe JSBS
Very interesting to see the name of Herbert Blumhardt on this list. I knew he had followed an officerscourse but I didn't know at which school. I also knew that he served in the pre-war SS-VT but I didn't know that he ever was transfered to the SS-TV. So maybe somebody can tell me what he did overthere, most likely nothing more than guarddutie but I'm interested in finding out what exactly he did within the SS-TV.
In May 1940 Herbert served with the 9. Sturm from the SS.VT-Standarte 'Deutschland' and on May 17th 1940 he took part in the fightings around the Sloedam in Holland. Because the commander from the 9. Sturm got seriously wounded during that attack Blumhardt apparently took temporarily command. In September 1940 Blumhardt was most likely the commander from the first platoon with the 14.(Pz.Abw.)Sturm from the SS.VT-Standarte 'Deutschland'.


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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by TH Albright » 23 Mar 2010 18:45

Hi Mike..Blumhardt served as an enlisted man in SS-Wachtruppe Sachsen 1934-35, then SS-TV Oberbayern 1935-37 after which he was transferred to SS.VT-Standarte 'Deutschland' ..graduated from SS JS Braunschweig in 1937.

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 24 Mar 2010 03:07

1. SS-T.V. Standate "Oberbayern": 1937 SS DAL Listing

Führer: SS-Obersturmbannführer Max Simon
Führer I / Oberbayern: SS-Sturmbannführer Helmuth Becker
Führer II / Oberbayern: SS-Hauptsturmführer Eduard Deisenhofer
Führer III / Oberbayern: SS-Sturmbannführer Heinrich Scheingraber

SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Hermann Schmorell
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Eberhard Quirsfeld
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Franz Mayer
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Karl Künstler
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Leander Hauck
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Kurt Launer
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Herbert Rautenberg
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Alfons Zeitler
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Herbert Wachsmann
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Otto Kron
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Wolfgang von Freyberg
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Georg Ahlemann
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Conrad Schellong
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Kurt Heymann
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Alfred Müller
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Leopold Wolfmeyer
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Kurt Albert
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Sebastian Wimmer
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Albert Franke
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Willi Klein
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Paul-Werner Hoppe
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Heinz Küchle
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Max Kühn
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Heinz Bressau
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Wilhelm Hofinger
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Wilhelm Moser
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Robert Schwögler
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Otto Küster
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Pius Hohenster
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Kurt Mayer
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Max Westphal
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Josef Geiling
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Wilhelm Fichtinger
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Willy Reum
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Walther Stadlbauer
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Walter Reder
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Eduard Gebhardt
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Heinrich Krauth
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Anton Koppenwallner
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Fritz Haas
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Hans Stolley
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Erwin Schumacher
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Horst Peiper
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Ernst Häussler

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James
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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 24 Mar 2010 04:29

1. SS-T.V. Standarte "Oberbayern": 1938 SS DAL Listing

Führer SS-Standartenführer Max Simon

Führer I / Oberbayern: SS-Sturmbannführer Helmuth Becker
Führer II / Oberbayern: SS-Sturmbannführer Eduard Diesenhofer
Führer III / Oberbayern: SS-Sturmbannführer Karl Künstler

SS-Sturmbannfuhrer Erwin Reitz
SS-Sturmbannfuhrer Hans Eichele
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Hermann Schmorell
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Kurt Launer
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Herbert Rautenberg
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Paul Schulz
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Adolf Kurtz
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Fritz König
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Alfred Franke
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Otto Kron
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Herbert Wachsmann
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Herbert Krause
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Georg Ahlemann
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Georg Bochmann
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Conrad Schellong
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Fritz Steinert
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Hans Zwerger
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Sebastian Wimmer
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Willi Klein
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Carl Weiss
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Rudolf Wahl
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Otto Haslreiter
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Peter Lotz
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Friedrich von Horn
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Walter Hoffmann
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Otto Küster
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Kurt Mayr
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Wilhelm Fichtinger
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Walter Stadlbauer
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Wilhelm Hofinger
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Heinz Küchle
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Max Kühn
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Paul Kausch
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Heinrich Krauth
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Carl-Günther Molt
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Ernst Häussler
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Eduard Gebhardt
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Anton Koppenwallner
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Fritz Haas
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Erwin Schumacher
SS-Obersturmfuhrer Hans Augustin
SS-Untersturmfuhrer August Harbaum
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Franz Ogris
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Josef Schwarz
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Johann Vogl
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Viktor Zoller
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Alfred Schmäling
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Martin Schmid
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Konrad Füll
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Georg Bachmayer
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Azelino Masarie
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Fritz Höring
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Franz Fillebock
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Johann Demharter
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Josef Pistotnik
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Alois Burgstaller
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Johann Eiger
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Kurt Reif
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Kurt Weise
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Engelbert Wisheer
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Wilhelm Riede
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Ernst Heinisch
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Johann Weidinger
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Josef Landes
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Alois Mooslechner
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Karl Schober
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Fritz Sessler
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Ernst Rosenfelder
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Walter Reder
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Hans Stolley
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Hans Rieser
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Oskar Kuntze
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Werner Schumacher
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Fritz Biermeier
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Hans Riedel
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Werner Weber
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Helmut Greiser
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Hans Joch
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Heinz Cornelius
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Werner Frank
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Helmuth Rahn
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Werner Korff
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Heinz Goroncz
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Rupprecht Saalbach
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Georg Schrep
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Hans Knaack
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Friedrich Schassberger
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Wilhelm Hagemeier
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Gerhard Gnabs
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Ernst Wagner
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Hubert Kersten
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Helmut Fredrich
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Johannes Raduenz
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Theo Buecker
SS-Untersturmfuhrer Eduard Weber

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by Dieter Zinke » 24 Mar 2010 09:55

"....führer" please, not "....fuhrer"

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by Mikedc » 24 Mar 2010 11:20

TH Albright wrote:
Hi Mike..Blumhardt served as an enlisted man in SS-Wachtruppe Sachsen 1934-35, then SS-TV Oberbayern 1935-37 after which he was transferred to SS.VT-Standarte 'Deutschland' ..graduated from SS JS Braunschweig in 1937.
Hello TH, thank you very for this info, this is very helpfull for sure. So we can assume he was SS-Mann at the time he served with the SS-TV??? Or did he also held NCO-ranks during that period??? Also good to know when he graduated from the Junkerschule, it makes the picture a bit more complete now....

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by Phil Nix » 24 Mar 2010 11:49

I am confused re 5 SS Totenkopfverbände I have one called "Dietrich Eckardt" formed 12.9.39 in Berlin and Oranienberg Transferred to Vienna Oct 1939 when it became 13 SS Totenkopf Standarte
Kommandeur Cassius Freiherr von Montigny 2.9.39 - 12.9.39
Heinz Bertling 12.9.39 - 1.11.39
There is also 5 SS Totenkopfstandarte formed 2.11.39 afterb 2 SS Totenkopf Standarte was disolved
Kommandeur Wilhelm Sacks 23.10.39 - 17.11.39
Leo von Jena 17.11.39 - 6.12.39
Fritz von Paris (MFB) 6.12.39 - 15.12.39
Franz Breithaupt 15.12.39 - 1.9.40
Willi Bettenhauser (MFB) 1.9.40 - 20.9.40
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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 24 Mar 2010 14:32

Hello Dieter,

I corrected the names I posted last night by using the umlautes where appropiate for the Oberbayern Standarte also the(Führer) of the senior officers.

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 29 Mar 2010 21:06

2. SS-T.V. Standarte "Brandenburg": 1937 SS-DAL Listing

SS-Standartenführer Max Simon: Führer Brandenburg

SS-Hauptsturmführer Marcus Habben: Führer IV. / Brandenburg
SS-Hauptsturmführer Max Gebhardt: Führer V. / Brandenburg
SS-Sturmbannführer Heinrich Petersen: Führer VI. / Brandenburg

SS-Hauptsturmführer:

Willi Dusenschön
Heinrich Braun
Hugo Klapsch
Friedrich Kaulitz
Rudolf Schneider
Karl Weichselsdorfer
Franz Ziereis
Fritz Koenig

SS-Obersturmführer:

Hans Meyer
Willy Bredemeier
Willy Schulz
Herbert Krauss
Georg Braun
Kurt Grabow
Richard Eberhardt
Josef Bachmeier
Josef Linthaler
Siegfried Schultz
Max Dallinger
Hans Woith
Franz Kemmetmüller
Lorenz Baier
Emil Zollhöfer
Erich Blumenthal
Johannes Hassebroek
Heinrich Albrecht

SS-Untersturmführer:

Wolfram Schneider
Eckard Brühl
Wilhelm Scheungraber
Rudolf Kinne
Franz Maier
Johann Gruner
Richard Zimmermann
Karl Thier
Karl Layer
Fritz Richter
Heinrich Gradl
Herbert Kaufmann
Heinz Brinkmann
Robert Frank
Wilfried Schroedel
Rolf Holzapfel
Paul Monich
August Carstens
Richard Pauly
Hasso Westermann
Alfred Arnold
Eugen Weitzel

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 29 Mar 2010 21:55

2. SS-T.V. Standarte "Brandenburg": 1938 SS-DAL Listing

SS-Standartenführer Paul Nostitz: Führer Brandenburg

SS-Hauptsturmführer Willi Dusenschön: Führer I. / Brandenburg
SS-Hauptsturmführer Heinrich Braun: Führer II. / Brandenburg
SS-Sturmbannführer Heinrich Petersen: Führer III. / Brandenburg

SS-Sturmbannführer:

Hugo Klapsch

SS-Hauptsturmführer:

Hans Heinrich Kaltofen
Rudolf Schneider
Willy Schulz
Max Dallinger
Emil Zollhöfer
Erich Blumenthal
Johannes Hassebroek
Heinrich Albrecht
Siegfried Schultz

SS-Obersturmführer:

Willi Bredemeier
Georg Braun
Wilhelm Möller
Kurt Albert
Martin Sparmann
Wolfram Schneider
Ernst Neubauer
Rudolf Kinne
Ernst Fuss
Hermann Frank
Karl Friderici
Otto Schöner
Hermann Schleifenbaum
Richard Zimmermann
Karl Thier
Gerhard Swoboda
Otto Podssuweit
Kurt Wegener
Johannes Gruner
Günter Hilgenstock
Otto Streich
Wilhelm Burböck
Ferdinand Meissner
Karl Sattler
Heinz Brinkmann
Robert Frank
Wilfried Schroedel
Franz Jakob
Friedrich Christoph
Otto Meckelburg
Hasso Westermann

SS-Untersturmführer:

Heinrich Gradl
Heinz Harrer
Otto Spanka
Reinhold Löw
Alois Weiten
Fritz Burchard
Josef Fenk
Xaver Hagspiel
Herbert Sohm
Valentin Gerndt
Eberhard Zech
Host Steppuhn
Ottomar Hilbert
Hubert Gölles
Werner Schindler
Hermann Kirsamer
Erich Dahm
Walter Drexler
Hellmuth Schwarz
Karl Plötz
Georg Renken
Gustav Schomaker
Erich Dümmer
Gerhard Bruns
Karl Manfred Schmidt
Heinrich Willmann
Herbert Röhl
Erich Frommhagen
Albert Amerongen
Hanns Prechtl
Hermann Otto
Eugen-Rolf Holzapfel
Günter Fischer
Hans Mützelfeldt
August Carstens
Alfred Arnold
Karl Gottschalk
Karl Stieglitz
Max Schultz
Gerhard Krüger
Lothar Iser
Bruno Schütze
Alexander Herrmann
Heinz Schlosser
Ruprecht Grams

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 03 Apr 2010 17:52

Hello,

For those interested, I will be posting the Officers of 3. SS-T.V. Standarte "Thüringen" in a couple of days. Any contributions to this thread is and would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände

Post by coburg22 » 05 Apr 2010 15:16

3. SS-T.V. Standarte "Thüringen": 1937 SS-DAL Listing

SS-Standartenführer Paul Nostitz: Führer Thüringen

SS-Sturmbannführer Heimo Hierthes: Führer VII. / Thüringen

SS-Sturmbannführer:

Hans Wellershaus

SS-Hauptsturmführer:

Fritz Hildebrandt
Adam Grünewald
Hans Zeysing
Hansheinrich Kaltofen
Kurt Weisse
Otto Sulzbach

SS-Obersturmführer:

Hans Aumeier
Kurt Hansen
Rudolf Dirnagel
Emil Reichherzer
Hermann Kimmel
Martin Sparmann
Harald Megow
Hans Zwerger
Otto Soeldner
Hans Hüttig
Michael Schottes
Heinrich Heinke
Erich Urbanietz

SS-Untersturmführer:

Josef Paintner
Fritz Wittl
Peter Lotz
Lino Masarie
Kurt Lange
Robert Bandera
Ernst Kiklasch
Walter Hoffmann
Bruno Putzenhardt
Ulrich Besch
Rudi Ullmann
Hans-Friedrich Bauer
Hermann Brandt
Friedrich Knorr
Richard Baumann
Walter Garbe
Richard Schulze
Paul Kausch
Erich Rosenbusch
Fritz Butenhoff
Adolf Pittschellis
Karl Prinz

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James

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