SS-Stubaf. Friedrich Engelke

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SS-Stubaf. Friedrich Engelke

Post by Ian Sayer » 15 Mar 2010 14:55

Can anybody provide a bio on this SS officer please. I have seen a dossier at the National Archives which states that he was convicted and sentenced for War crimes by the French on the 13th June 1951. There is also an individual of the same name who was being held as a prisoner in Dachau by the SS in April 1945 and I wondered if this might be the same person.

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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by waffen-IDF » 15 Mar 2010 15:43

I have a Fritz Engelke

SS-Stubaf.: 21.06.44 SS-WVHA
SS-Nr.: 89994

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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by Ian Sayer » 15 Mar 2010 16:38

Thank you Waffen-IDF. On the war crime dossier he is referred to as an SS Colonel but in one specific memo he is mentioned as an Hauptsturmfuehrer who was in charge of the Buying and Distributing Office of Stocks and Commodities in Paris. It seems that he was corrupt and managed to loot a considerable amount of French property!
If anybody has any additional info on this character I would be most grateful.
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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by waffen-IDF » 15 Mar 2010 16:49

That must be him then. The SS-WVHA was into those kind of stuff, anything to do with "administration".

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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by Ian Sayer » 15 Mar 2010 17:09

Thans very much Waffen-IDF.
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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by dylan » 15 Mar 2010 19:05

Fritz Engelke born 8/9/1900 in Hannover
Merchant and Textiletrader.
Leiter der Aussenstelle Auftragsverlagerung Paris.

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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by Ian Sayer » 18 Mar 2010 10:25

Many thanks Dylan. Does anyone know if he was arrested and imprisoned in Dachau before the end of the war?
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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by Peter » 18 Mar 2010 14:52

SS-Stubaf. Engelke, Fritz (Friedrich) was a career administrator, he served with SS-WVHA as SS-Ustuf in Nov 1940 and he was with SS-WVHA as SS-Stubaf in June 1944.

I can also add his NSDAP # 4 887 158.

I have an unverified early note (but I do not know the source) that SS-Hstuf Dr Johann Engelke (born 1904 Hannover) Hauptamt SS-Gericht was transferred to 7 SS "PE" after an investigation of his relation (no name), Johann was later Vermisst.

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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by dylan » 20 Mar 2010 21:32

Trial Engelke in Absence ( Paris 13/6/1951)
still living in Hannover in 1975.

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Re: Friedrich Engelke

Post by Ian Sayer » 25 Mar 2010 18:39

Thanks Dylan and Peter.
That's very helpful
Regards
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Re: SS-Stubaf. Friedrich Engelke

Post by drubytue » 14 Jul 2012 00:51

Thanks for this helpful thread. I found a reference to Engelke in this article from Der Spiegel in 1948: http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-44417576.html

Connecting some dots, I posted several items about him on my family history blog.
http://rubyfamily.blogspot.com/2012/07/ ... tions.html
http://rubyfamily.blogspot.com/2012/07/ ... otted.html

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Re: SS-Stubaf. Friedrich Engelke

Post by Minotauros » 20 Jul 2022 09:09

Hello,


†27.03.1981 in Hannover.

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Re: SS-Stubaf. Friedrich Engelke

Post by Ian Sayer » 20 Jul 2022 10:13

Thank you Minotauros

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Re: SS-Stubaf. Friedrich Engelke

Post by fritz9095 » 15 Sep 2022 18:48

---- kann leider nur in Deutsch schreiben ----

Friedrich Engelke war ein Verwandter von mir -----
er war der Mann der Cousine meines Vaters ( Margot Engelke ) geb. Schmauch
das Familien Grab der Engelkes gibt es noch heute auf dem
Friedhof Engesohde in Hannover --- das Sterbedatum 27.3.1981 kann ich bestätigen
auch kann ich bestätigen, dass er bei der SS als Obersturmbannführer in Paris tätig war
und im KZ Dachau eingeliefert war - dort als Untersuchungshäftling wegen einer
Unterschlagung von 250.000 RM seines Stellvertreters Hans oder Heinz Kirchhöfer
der sich nach einem Verhör im Aug 1944 erschossen hat.
er ist mit dem Geiseltransport gegen Ende April 1945 vom KL Dachau mit Sippen und Sonderhäftlingen dann
nach Südtirol zum Pragser Wildsee gebracht worden.
Bei den Sippen häftlingen handelt es sich um Angehörige von
mitwirkenden am Hitler Attentat vom 20.Juli 1944 ( z. Bsp. Stauffenberg, Gördeler usw.)
bei den Sonderhäftlingen handelt es sich um Prominente aus 17 Europäischen Ländern.
folgender Link gibt weitere Informationen

http://www.mythoselser.de/niederdorf.htm#fn14

in 2001 ist seine Frau Margot verstorben und hat eine Stiftung
in Hannover gegründet ( Margot Engelke Stiftung )

https://www.hannover.de/Stiftungsinitia ... e-Stiftung

in einem Flyer der Stadt Hannover steht dass sie 7,7 Mio in diese Stiftung
hat einfliesen lassen.

Vielleicht ist manches schon bekannt - hat jemand ebenfalls noch Informationen
wäre sehr an weiteren Informationen interessiert.

Gruß Wilfried

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Re: SS-Stubaf. Friedrich Engelke

Post by lazybather » 16 Sep 2022 10:59

Hello Wilfried,
Thank you for posting.
I can also confirm that he worked for the SS as an Obersturmbannführer in Paris
and was imprisoned in Dachau Concentration Camp - there as a prisoner on remand for
embezzlement of 250,000 RM from his deputy, Hans or Heinz Kirchhöfer
who shot himself after an interrogation in Aug 1944.
Held on remand until his release (awaiting trial) in Strafvollzugslager der SS und Polizei Dachau.

SS-Untersturmführer Heinz Kirchhöfer (1913–1944).

Stuart. :)

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