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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 05 Sep 2011 19:48

Is this Gebhardt next to Himmler? The only description is that it's Himmler in Westerbork.
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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by goofy » 05 Sep 2011 21:00

It is him. The same photo was already posted on this forum without watermark.
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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 05 Sep 2011 21:24

I see. May I ask where?

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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 17 Sep 2011 00:23

I found quite an interesting photo:
"Tschammer und Osten, Hans von; Nazi sport official, Reichssportführer and SA Group Leader; 1887-1943.-Visit to the Red Cross sanitorium in Hohenlychen (Brandenburg, Germany) on 24th October 1942: Tschammer und Osten with physician Dr.Gebhardt and Dr.Gebhardt's son"

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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by Max Williams » 17 Sep 2011 00:48

Now that's what I call a good photo. Is it a News Corporation photo?
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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 17 Sep 2011 14:00

Newscom! :)

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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 14 Oct 2011 17:29

In “Infiltration - How Heinrich Himmler Schemed to Build an SS Industrial Empire” (1981) by Albert Speer, it says that Gebhardt had “unabashedly” claimed, during a party held by Sepp Dietrich, that Himmler considered Speer dangerous and that he “had to ‘disappear’”. Here, Speer mentions no source.

According to Speer’s book “Inside the Third Reich” (1970), Speer was told by Funk, who was told by his friend Horst Walter that Gebhardt had said it. Horst Walter was apparently present at the party where Gebhardt made this remark.

According to Fest’s Speer-biography (2007) and Sereny’s book “Albert Speer: his battle with truth” (1995), Funk told Speer this in Spandau, years later.

When Sereny asked Speer’s secretary Annemarie Kempf about the event, Kempf shrugged and said that “Gebhardt drank like a fish, like the rest of them. […] In his cups, he might have said anything”.
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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by Max Williams » 14 Oct 2011 17:45

To be honest, anything coming from Speer should be treated with extreme caution. Sereny's book title was never more apt.
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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by Landsberger » 03 Jan 2012 21:15

Affidavit concerning the functioning of Himmler's staff and Himmler's contacts with Gebhardt.

I, Werner GROTHMANN, born on 23rd August 1915 at Frankfurt a.M., last SS-Obersturmbannführer in the Waffen-SS and Chief Adjutant to Reichsführer-SS HIMMLER, interned in the British Civilian Internment Camp at Fallingbostel, at present in the military prison at Nuremberg, have been warned that I render myself liable to punishment if I submit a false affidavit. I declare under oath that my statement is true and was made for the purpose of being submitted as evidence to the Military Court No. 1 at the Palace of Justice, Nuremberg, Germany.

On the subject: From 1940 to 1945, I was Adjutant to Reichsführer of the SS HIMMLER; since 1942 as Adjutant I was entrusted with the handling of military matters in HIMMLER's staff. As such, I am in the position to testify about the
general organization of the Field-Headquarters (HIMMLER's Headquarters). Reports of a military character were submitted to HIMMLER through me, matters concerning police affairs were submitted through Lt.Col. of the Police SUCHANEK; the handling of incoming and outgoing mail for HIMMLER was exclusively in the charge of Dr. Rudolf BRANDT, HIMMLER's personal advisor. HIMMLER himself ordered persons to attend conferences with him; he always conducted those conferences alone with the person concerned, i.e. without BRANDT, SUCHANEK or myself being present.
Information regarding the subject of the conference was usually not given by HIMMLER.

At my time, the physicians on HIMMLER's staff were the Finnish chiropractor, Dr. GERSTEN (sic), who, during his presence at headquarters, treated HIMMLER daily; furthermore, a so-called "permanent escort physician" who attended trips to the front and who was also responsible for the medical care of the personnel of the Field-Headquarters, from 1941 to 1942, Dr. WITTMANN was escorting physician from 1942 to autumn of 1944 it was Dr. STUMPFEGGER, and from the autumn of 1944 up to the armistice it was Dr. Müller.

During my assignment as Adjutant to HIMMLER, Prof. GEBHARDT held the position of consulting surgeon of the Waffen-SS. I this capacity he frequently visited the front units of the Waffen-SS where he also performed operations. Furthermore, Prof. GEBHARDT was also Chief Physician at Hohenlychen at that time; HIMMLER visit Hohenlychen
approximately two or three times a year. He used the opportunity especially around Christmas to visit the wounded and also see his two children, who lived at Hohenlychen, later in the vicinity. Dr. GEBHARDT's visits to HIMMLER's headquarters during my period of office as adjutant (from 1940 - 1945) usually lasted only a few days; the announcement
of his visit mostly came through me, without giving any reasons. I have never attended any conferences between HIMMLER and GEPHARDT. As far as I remember, only HIMMLER and GEBHARDT were present at those conferences, following HIMMLER's custom. Neither HIMMLER nor GEBHARDT informed me even afterwards about the subject of those discussions.
In respect of his collaborators, too, HIMMLER obeyed the Fuehrer's command concerning Secrecy, which permitted information to be given only to the extent necessary for the execution of certain duties by the person concerned. In conversations in the presence of several people, as for example discussions at the table, only those matters were discussed which were not subject to secrecy.

In addition to the above mentioned tete-a-tete conferences between HIMMLER and GEBHARDT, I only remember one conference at which besides Professor GEBHARDT also Professor GRAWITZ was ordered to appear. The subject of this conference, too, remained unknown to me. Frequent conferences at regular intervals between HIMMLER and several SS-Physicians together never took place in my time.

In addition to activities as already mentioned, Professor Dr. GEBHARDT, since August 1944 to my knowledge was Heersgruppenarzt with the Army Group Oberrhein, since January 1945, Heersgruppenarzt with the Army Group Weichsel.

Nuremberg, 27 January 1947

Signed: Werner GROTHMANN

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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 21 Jan 2012 16:01

According to "Die Kaninchen von Ravensbrück" by Freya Klier, Gebhardt had two older sisters. I only know that one of them was called Dina. Does anyone have any more information?

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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 24 Jan 2012 11:51

Could someone tell me where this is from and where I can find the original?
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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by Max Williams » 24 Jan 2012 12:43

The original is noted at the top of your image. Original copies of Das Schwarze Korps are held in the German state library service and can usually be ordered in advance for access. I accessed them at the Staatsbibliothek in Munich after ordering them several weeks in advance. Individual original copies are commonly offered for sale.
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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by dwicky » 24 Jan 2012 17:04

Thank you.

I found this today, it's quite interesting http://www.rcpe.ac.uk/journal/issue/jou ... silver.pdf

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Re: Karl Gebhardt

Post by Max Williams » 24 Jan 2012 18:10

Yes, interesting, but the misleading first paragraph is enough to put anyone off and creates an initial impression of superficial research.
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