SS-Stubaf. Paul Baron Vietinghoff-Scheel

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SS-Stubaf. Paul Baron Vietinghoff-Scheel

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Post by Shane A Beaver » 09 Jun 2011, 17:08

Can anybody add to the following information that I have on SS-Stubaf. Paul Baron Vietinghoff-Scheel, please?

Born Riga, 5 April 1884
SS # 280368
NSDAP # 2642306
SS-Ustuf. 20.04.37
SS-Stubaf. 30.01.39
Former Lt d.r. (a.D.)
Fought in Baltic Landwehr against Red Army until fleeing Latvia in 1920. Moved to Germany, worked in industry.
Head of Zentralabteilung III/111 of the SD-HA (Osteuropa - Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia & Danzig).
Head of Gruppe VI.C of the RSHA 1939/40 (Ost - Russia, "Randstaaten", "Ferner Osten").
RSHA 1944.
In paricular I would like to know when he joined both the Nazi Party and the SS. Also was he still head of Gruppe VI.C of the RSHA in 1944?.
And did he survive the war?
Thanks in advance.

Shane Beaver

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Re: SS-Stubaf Paul Baron Vietinghoff-Scheel

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Post by encodetry » 23 Sep 2011, 11:15

I have a sword with the name Baron Vietinghoff engraved on the blade together with some other Russian and Italian names all in Russian syrillac. The sword is French made.

I was wondering if the Baron you are enquiring about is the same Baron. The sword dates from around 1900.

I can upload photos if that is possible.


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Re: SS-Stubaf Paul Baron Vietinghoff-Scheel

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Post by BB-WA » 25 Sep 2011, 18:15

Hi Shane
I think not, but here's what I've got for this office but with a big gap and missing / conflicting dates for date of posting and leaving. I would think that by the time Tschierschy left, the post would have been irrelevant in any case with the Russian advance getting closer.

Any idea of when Vietinghoff-Scheel left in 1940, and where he went. Not much on him in the search function.

Gruppe VI C, Amt VI, RSHA -
Leiter -
(27.05.1944.) 27.09.1944. - (00.11.1944.) - SS-Obersturmbannführer. Karl Tschierschy SS# 44 334 - (Stuf 20.04.34, Ostuf 20.04.35, Hstuf 15.09.35, Stubaf 09.11.36, Ostubaf 01.05.42, [Staf 30.01.45]) - Trans. 00.11.1944. - 00.01.1945, Führer, SD-Leitabschnitte, Dresden - zug. 00.01.1945. - 00.05.1945, Chef des Stabes des Generalinspekteurs für den passiven Widerstand und Spezialabwehr, beim, HA-OrPo - (i.e. Generalinspekteur für Spezialabwehr beim Reichsführer-SS, Adolf Prützmann [Aktion "Werewolf" - Werewolf units behind allied lines]). -

00.00.1944. - (27.05.1944.) 00.09.1944. - SS-Obersturmbannführer. Albert Rapp SS# 280 341 - (Ustuf 01.03.37, Ostuf
00.00.00, Hstuf 00.00.00, Stubaf 30.01.39, Ostubaf 30.01.41, [Staf 20.04.45]) -

*** 00.12.1943. - 25.01.1944. - SS-Obersturmbannführer.. u. Oberregierungsrat. Dr. Heinz Gräfe SS# 107 213 - (first officer rank Ostuf 11.09.38 m.W.v. 01.08.38, Hstuf 09.11.38, Stubaf 20.04.39, RR 00.00.00, ORR 01.12.42, Ostubaf 20.04.43, [Staf 31.03.44 Nactrag m.W.v. 01.01.44]) - † 25.01.1944, in a car crash near Bad Tölz.. - (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=59961 & http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=79756) -
*** 00.00.0000. - 25.01.1944. - List, Geschäftsverteilungsplan des Reichssicherheitshauptamtes from 01.10.1943 List - SS-Ostubaf. Oberregierungsrat Dr. Gräfe - (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=38) - When did Gräfe assume this post??? According to this list he was there before 00.12.1943.
01.01.1941. - 00.00.1943. - ????????? Big gap here -

z.Zt. unbesetzt - initially unoccupied - List, Geschäftsverteilungsplan des Reichssicherheitshauptamtes from 01.01.1941 - (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=38) -

00.09.1939. - 00.00.1940. - SS-Sturmbannführer. Paul Baron Vietinghoff-Scheel SS# 280 368 - (Ustuf 20.04.37, Ostuf 00.00.00, Hstuf 00.00.00, [Stubaf 30.01.39], Lt.d.R. a.D.) -

SD-Hauptamt -
III / 111 - Osteuropa - Rußland, Polen, Tschechoslowakei & Danzig -
Leiter -
00.00.0000. - 00.09.1939. - SS-Hauptsturmführer. Paul Baron Vietinghoff-Scheel SS# 280 368 - (Ustuf 20.04.37, Ostuf 00.00.00, Hstuf 00.00.00, [Stubaf 30.01.39], Lt.d.R. a.D.) - Trans. as Leiter, Amt VI C, Amt VI, RSHA -

Any corrections welcome, especially missing dates for Gruppe VI C even if slightly off topic.

Regards
Brian

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