SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

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SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

Post by Froggy0 » 29 Sep 2012 16:19

Hello,
I am searching for any informations of SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, 4. SS-Pol.Div.
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Post by Michael Miller » 29 Sep 2012 17:56

Here are the basics.

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Post by Froggy0 » 30 Sep 2012 16:20

Thank you very much Mike!
Could I look into the document of DKiG? please.
For completing :

SS- Hauptscharfhr. Promotion 20.04.42
Nr. Dogtag: -17-2./SS-Pz.Rgt
1938, Sudetenlandmedaille
1938 Einmarsch Österreich Erinnerungsmedaille
Award (+): Nahkampfspange 1.Stufe 24.4.45
Date of Verw.silber: 14.8.42

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Re: SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

Post by history1 » 30 Sep 2012 17:53

I wonder about this curios mix of English and German in those informations e.g.: "Date of Verw.silber". IMHO also the unfamiliar abbr. of the rank "Hauptscharführer" can only bring some confusion in the peoples mind. AFAIK there are also english names for all medals. Why using the german names then? Also an explanation of "Award (+)" would be appreciated.

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Post by Froggy0 » 30 Sep 2012 18:29

???the peoples mind? I am shure that Mike understand what I wrote.....
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Award(+) means: not knewn before (?)

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Re: SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

Post by history1 » 30 Sep 2012 20:35

Froggy0, this is a public thread for everyone in this world to read. Even if your post is regarded to Mike.
And, referring to our forum members who are reading this thread too it would be only correct to use propper abbreviations. There is no need for further confusion, to many spelling errors are allready out there....
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Post by Mikedc » 01 Oct 2012 19:01

Froggy0 wrote:
1938, Sudetenlandmedaille
1938 Einmarsch Österreich Erinnerungsmedaille
When I'm correct he means:
The Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938/Sudetenland-Medaille.
The Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938/Ostmark-Medaille.


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Post by Froggy0 » 02 Oct 2012 06:44

Hallo,
this is right, but not Ostmark Medaille, Österreichmedaille.
Promotiondate Feldwebel : 09.11.40 (2./SS-Pol.Rgt2)
Promotiondate Oberfeldwebel: 01.04.42
Thank you

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Re: SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

Post by Mark C. Yerger » 02 Oct 2012 08:38

see volume 5, pages 254-257, of "German Cross in Gold Holders of the SS and Police" for his full biography including his DK in Gold Vorschlagsliste.

Data for SS and Polizei German Cross in Gold holders for:

Das Reich
Nordland
all Kavallerie units
Polizei Division
also all DK in Silver holders

is published in readily available books

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Post by history1 » 02 Oct 2012 09:16

Mikedc wrote:[...] When I'm correct he means:
The Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938/Sudetenland-Medaille.
The Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938/Ostmark-Medaille.
Greatings, Mike
Thanks Mike, as allways much appreciated.
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Post by Froggy0 » 02 Oct 2012 14:19

Hallo Mark C.,
Thank you for this Information where I can find this "Vorschlagliste". So I must go to buy this book !
Regards Froggy

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Post by history1 » 02 Oct 2012 14:48

Froggy0 wrote:[...] Thank you for this Information where I can find this "Vorschlagliste".
So I must go to buy this book !
[...]
Don´t go too far :lol:
http://www.bender-publishing.com/GermanCross5.html

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Re: SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

Post by Mark C. Yerger » 04 Oct 2012 12:07

Due to several recent mails, I wish to make a comment, simply for ALL forum members to fully understand.

Both before and now during the economic difficulties of today the book publishing industry has changed. World wide many countries have reduced postal services to airmail only, adding considerably to the cost of publishing books (as well as sales) while both reducing the number of copies printed as well as the number of new books published.

The time, effort, and costs for an author to write a book are high with less than lucrative pay for such endeavors. However, most authors (including myself) do NOT write for any pursuit of financial compensation. Without those efforts data would, for a large amount, be reduced to inaccurate Internet sources. These are the reasons I simply refuse to post vast amounts of manuscript pages from my own already (or to be) published books.

It has NOTHING to do with author financial return. Unless publishers sell enough copies in these times, their costs are not recovered to print other new texts. For most of my life I worked 2 jobs and therefore find a "no money" reply to someone with 1,000 posts as a reason to not buy books that answer questions posted an invalid excuse. Get a job. In particular those books with the data for a question that have been available for years. In at least 1 case a forum member's eagerly awaited volume is delayed due to the low sales of all books at this point in time. If books overall do not sell and manuscripts/research therefore not published, authors will simply not research, write, and compile texts with unpublished organized new data.

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Re: SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

Post by Froggy0 » 04 Oct 2012 15:35

Hi Marc C.,
I have no problem with your statement. I Think, if a member asked here, for research and if it could be, this member can "update" your Informations about e.g. Labahn (if there were "Update facts" like promotion date and so on), your next updated book profits from these Informations. And so it could be fair to give this member the Information he need and not "Buy my book,there you can read the Info you need...."or the text:" dont go so far"hahaha,bender publishing, from Austrians....Shit happens !

Greetings froggy

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Re: SS-Ostuf. Karl Labahn, DKiG, Infos needed

Post by Michael Miller » 04 Oct 2012 22:15

Excellent post, Mark. Harsh and blunt-- as the truth often is.

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