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Post by tippette » 30 Dec 2015, 09:33

Could you please help me in under standing this document?

F.[Führer] i.[in] Junker-Schule Braunschweig
Zugführer in III/SS-Deutschland
Zugführer in II/SS-Deutschland
Zugführer in III/SS-Deutschland
Kompanieführer 11./SS-"D"
SS Inf. Ersatz-Btl. Deutschland
SS-Junkerschule Tölz
I Kdt. [kommandiert] 5.Lehr[gang] Abteilungsführer-Schule für Schnelle Truppen Paris
I SS-Führungshauptamt, Amtsgruppe B, Amt II
Begleit Btl. RF-SS


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Post by Reader3000 » 30 Dec 2015, 11:46

"Zugf. i." are the next stations after Junker-Schule (F. i. might be "Führer in"?), E is for Ersatz (replacement), Kp. F. stans for "Kompanie-Führer". The line after Tölz means "Kd. z. 5. Lehrg. Abt. Fhr. Sch. f. schnelle (?)" as kommandiert zum 5. Lehrgang Abteilung Führer Schule für schnelle [Truppen] which is that he was send to a school to be trained for tanks. Next line is SS Führungshauptamt, but no clue which section Amtgr. that was.


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Post by Dieter Zinke » 30 Dec 2015, 13:40

The supplements and corrections were integrated in your post!

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Post by tippette » 30 Dec 2015, 17:35

Thank you very much!!!!!!

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Post by tippette » 31 Dec 2015, 17:46

I studied a little the story of "Deutschland". They were involved in serious fighting until 24.09.1941 when they took a period of rest. After a few days they started again fighting. But this men on September 25th was sent to instruction activities for more than 18 months. What does it mean in your opinion? He was a very good teacher or a very bad fighter?
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Post by Georges JEROME » 01 Jan 2016, 20:09

you must tell us more on him because we have a partial view of SS-VT/WSS career (nothing after 43)
We have no infos on him (age, promotions dates and ranks, background....)

Who is it ?

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Post by tippette » 01 Jan 2016, 21:22

He is Karl-Heinz Cantow
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Cantow Karl-Heinz

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Post by Pena V » 01 Jan 2016, 21:46

A couple of comments:

12 Mar 1938 - 01 Apr 1938
Junker-Schule Braunschweig spent March 1938 in preparations for the next Lehrgang due to start 01 Apr 1938.
01 Jan 1941 - 01 Sep 1941
Cantow is WIA 23 Jul 1941 and after that is a CO in name only.
01 Sep 1941 - 25 Sep 1941
Actually Cantow spent over 2 month recovering from his wounds and he was listed in the rolls of Ersatz-Bataillon after reliesed from hospital.
15 Sep 1943 -
Cantow is sent to the Aufstellungsstab of 16. PzGrD "RF-SS". The Division is formally established 03 Oct 1943 and Cantow becomes the CO of II/PzGrR 35 at some stage - possibly already 03 Oct 1943.
bold = quessing, no proof.
Anyway, he was not a very good teacher or a very bad fighter. He was simply WIA and therefore not fit for frontline duties for a while.

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Post by tippette » 01 Jan 2016, 22:05

How do you know he was wounded?

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Post by tippette » 01 Jan 2016, 22:22

Thank you very much.
Is there a way to found easyly a name? It seems to be a long reading

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Post by tippette » 01 Jan 2016, 22:56

I cannot understand the meaning of the fifth column where, at the name Cantow, is the date 30.10.1940. What does it mean?
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Post by Georges JEROME » 01 Jan 2016, 23:30

fith column with mark indicate he was a full time paid SS member (Hauptamtlich)

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Post by tippette » 01 Jan 2016, 23:41

Deutschland-Officer-10.jpg
Thank you Jerome but I meant the fifth column of this document

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Post by Reader3000 » 17 Jan 2016, 19:40

tippette wrote:I cannot understand the meaning of the fifth column where, at the name Cantow, is the date 30.10.1940. What does it mean?
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fifth column says "Zugangs woher?" and means the date when he came from a different unit and which unit it was.

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