Gestapo officers - KdS Warschau

[Puck]

I have a Dr.Joseph Kaiser at Stapo Linz in 1943 (promotion to Kriminalrat on 21.08.1943)
from 07.1937..06.1940 at Stapo Wilhelmhaven
from 06.1940..08.1942 unknown and at Stapo Oppeln
from 08.1942..06.1944 at Stapo/Kripoleitstelle Linz
from 06.1944 at Kripoleitstelle Katowice

Regards Puck

[George_W]

I do not have any info about Joseph Kaiser but according to the book Pommern 1934/35 im Spiegel von Gestapo-Lageberichten und Sachakten by Thevoz and others the KK Kaiser posted to Stapo Linz was Fritz Kaiser. So it is possible that authors may have mixed two officers named Kaiser. One who served in Stapo Stettin and another who was posted to Stapo Linz and promoted to KR at Linz.

The problem is that in another Polish book about activities of Gestapo in Pommern author also states that KK Fritz Kaiser who served in Stapo Stettin was indeed posted to Stapo Linz in 1943.

Regards,
George

[steve248]

At the moment I am going through SS officers whose surname begins with "K", matching those in my own indexes with those listed in RG 260 (US NARA microfilm listing every SS officer by name, date of birth, NS and SS numbers, last rank and promotion date, and whether with Polizei, Waffen-SS, SD etc.). It is no surprise that some files of known SS officers were already missing before 1950; the files of SS-officers who died or were KIA before end 1944 are also missing. I wonder where RSHA I sent them.

I have 22 SS-Unterführer and 7 SS-Führer named Kaiser - none of whom appear to have been posted to Warsaw.

Neither Dr Joseph/Josef nor Fritz Kaiser appear to have been SS officers.

[George_W]

Most likely KK Fritz Kaiser from Stapo Stettin was not an SS member but only Uniformtraeger.

George

[steve248]

The listing I have includes Uniformtraeger (and so many of them) but neither Kaiser included.
Incidentally nor do any Kayser or Keiser personnel have posting top Warsaw.
I am not saying there were no persons named Kaiser were posted to Warsaw - it appears none were officers.

[George_W]

KK Dr. Kaiser is mentioned in KdS Warschau list of personnel from March 1940. The name of the document is "KdS Warschau, Fernspruch- und Wohnungverzeichnis, Stand: 15 March 1940". Kaiser is mentioned as SS-Ostuf KK and (the head?) officer in Referat III/III E at that time. I have the copy of that document from Polish archive. Probably he was mentioned as SS-Ostuf only due to his KK rank in police.

George

[steve248]

It could, of course, be that this Kaiser died or was killed in the war. In which case his SS file has gone.
Possibly he could be better identified through his RuS file, but I do not have access to them.

[George_W]

SS-Sturmbannführer und Kriminalrat Dr. iur. Hans BAUER [05 VI 1910 Maribor]

And one more think about that Bauer. I believe that list of names from KdS Warschau posted by Minotauros came from the same "KdS Warschau Fernspruch..." from March 1940. I have doubts that KR Bauer indeed listed as Leiter Abt. III (in 1940 Abt. III was Gestapo) on that list (but listed in that document without giving first name, only "KR Bauer") is similar to Dr. Johann/Hans Bauer, born 1910 in Maribor, served later in Stapo Klagenfurt and in occupied Yugoslavia.

George

[Puck]

Hmm, it's getting difficult...

I have a Dr.Johann"Hans" Bauer
born 01.01.1910 Wien
NS #6177713
SS #298543

01.05.1938 SS-Sturmmann
20.04.1940 SS-Obersturmführer
01.09.1942 SS-Hauptsturmführer
09.11.1942 SS-Sturmbannführer
20.04.1944 SS-Obersturmbannführer
27.05.1944 Oberregierungsrat

11.03.1939 Staatspolizeistelle Klagenfurt
in 1941 beim KdS Bled - Leiter Abt.IV
16.05.1942 stellv.KdS Bled
06.03.1944 (Leiter) Staatspolizeistelle Frankfurt/Oder
in 05.1944 beim BdS Ungarn
06.01.1945 Staatspolizeistelle Halle/Saale

Regards Puck

[George_W]

I wonder if he is similar to this Bauer from KdS Warschau but i do not have any proofs to confirm that. I doubt that, especially that this Bauer mentioned by Puck in the previous post above was "Dr." and this Bauer from KdS Warschau document does not have "Dr." before the name. It can be of course mistake made by people who prepared the list of KdS Warschau personnel but before the names of other KdS Warschau men who were "Dr." that title was not omitted on that document/list.

And from the dates of nomination posted above i can see that Dr. Johann/Hans Bauer was only an SS-Ostuf. in 1940 so i doubt that he had Kriminalrat (KR) rank at that time and that Bauer from KdS Warschau was KR in March 1940.

George

[steve248]

Johann "Hans" Bauer as per Puck's post, did not have a posting to Warsaw.
For Bled read Veldes.
Stapoleiter Frankfurt/Oder, March 1943-May 1944
6 June 1944, posting notice to BdS Ungarn; appointed KdS Debrechen
Aug 1944, appointed KdS Miskolc
[6th ?] Jan 1945 appointed Stapoleiter Halle
10 July 1945, arrested by British forces at Steinbrucken/St Veit, Austria
1 Jan 1963, died Klagenfurt

[George_W]

Thanks for the clarification and additional informations. So i wonder who was this "KR Bauer" who served in March 1940 as Leiter III in KdS Warschau. It seems to be still an unsolved mystery...

In BBL 53/1942 from November 1942 i found "KR Bauer ernannt zum KD with Stapo München". Maybe this is the same man who served in KdS Warschau in March 1940?

George

[Puck]

and there is another KR Johann Bauer (but no Dr.)
on 19.04.1941 transferred from Kripoleitstelle München to Kripoleitstelle Wien (SD-BBL 19.04.1941)

Regards Puck

[George_W]

It was probably different man as he was attached to Kripo not Stapo.

George

[steve248]

The "Bauer" mentioned in BBL 53/42 is SS-Stubaf KD Alfred Bauer - born 12 April 1896, Hersbruck; SS No. 353272; promoted SS-Stubaf 20 April 1940; promotion to KD on 6 Nov 1942 mentioned in his SSO. He was not posted to Warsaw.

The KK Johann Bauer from BBL14/41 announced his transfer from Kripo Munich to Kripo Wien; his promotion to KR in BBL 54/42, still in Wien. This Johann Bauer appears not to have joined the SS or become a Uniformtraeger. Makes further identification reliant on archival searches.