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Post by George_W » 17 May 2018, 08:59

Such SS card with very little info and with the "Uniformträger" stamp on it indicates that was indeed listed as SS-Obersturmführer but only Uniformträger.
So it means that for some reasons he was not regular SS officer.

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Post by Puck » 17 May 2018, 17:01

I just can provide a list of members of KdS Minsk on 5th february 1943 from a Kommandobefehl concerning the liquidation of the Ghetto Sluzk.

Participants in liquidation of Ghetto Sluzk
Abteilung I/II
SS-Hauptsturmführer Wilhelm Jakob Madecker (12.03.1904 Passau) SS #2499
SS-Obersturmführer Wilhelm Kaul (10.06.1906 Lippstadt) Regierungsoberinspektor
SS-Obersturmführer Friedrich Oswald Merbach (27.04.1912 Gotha) SS #42604
SS-Untersturmführer Ernst Wertholz (02.01.1907 Mainz) Polizeioberinspektor, SS #455840
SS-Untersturmführer Kurt Junker (15.06.1902 Köln) SS #49398
SS-Untersturmführer Richard Wiechert (19.05.1906 Angerburg - 24.03.1978 Tübingen) Kriminalobersekretär
SS-Oberscharführer Franz Gennert (31.10.1910 Danzig)
SS-Sturmscharführer Werner Krause
SS-Sturmscharführer Rudolf Zemann
SS-Scharführer Werner Kruse (03.01.1904 Höchst)
SS-Rottenführer Wolfgang Nikel
SS-Rottenführer Julius Geiger (31.01.1904 Dürn)
SS-Rottenführer Hans Strössinger (23.05.1905 Auerbach)
SS-Rottenführer Peter Egger (Austria)
SS-Rottenführer Josef Fischer
SS-Mann Alois Kraft
Rottwachtmeister Erich Altmann
Wachtmeister Arthur Kranke
Wachtmeister Fritz Mischke

Abteilung III
SS-Hauptsturmführer Rudolf Schlegel (11.06.1913 Chemnitz - 02.03.1979 Friedrichshall)
SS-Hauptsturmführer Ulrich Friedrich (10.08.1899 Leisnig)
SS-Untersturmführer Friedrich Eck (07.01.1904 Wuppertal - 30.06.1945 Brest executed) SS #50068
SS-Hauptscharführer Karl von der Goltz (20.12.1903 Saarburg)
SS-Rottenführer Heinz Schramm (04.07.1907 Berlin)
Dolmetscher ?? Julik
Dolmetscher ?? Krowecz

Abteilung IV
SS-Obersturmführer ?? Müller
SS-Obersturmführer Jakob Herbert Oswald
SS-Sturmscharführer Albert Fritz
SS-Hauptscharführer ?? Ehrig
SS-Oberscharführer Karl Buchner (23.12.1906 - 06.07.1946 Minsk)
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Kramer
SS-Oberscharführer Georg Burger (26.09.1909)
SS-Oberscharführer Oskar Seckinger (1916-05-29 Heidelberg)
SS-Oberscharführer Heinz Gethmann (18.07.1910 Köthen)
SS-Unterscharführer Eberhard Richard von Toll (15.01.1906 Piddul/Estonia)
SS-Unterscharführer Max Rexheuser (09.11.1907 München)
SS-Unterscharführer Reinhold Hörner (13.11.1913 Wallenrode)
SS-Oberscharführer Paul Rumschewitz (08.04.1908 Frauenburg/Lithuania)
SS-Oberscharführer Josef Brandlmayr
SS-Unterscharführer Hubert Strathmann (Austria)
Dolmetscher ?? Sokolowski
Dolmetscher ?? Natatow
Dolmetscher ?? Aisupe
Dolmetscher ?? Gorschkow
Dolmetscher ?? Michelsen
Hilfsbeamter ?? Bunte
Hilfsbeamter ?? Santz
Hilfsbeamter ?? Tomsons
Hilfsbeamter ?? Sipols
Hilfskraft ?? Meschek
Hilfskraft ?? Ronis
Hilfskraft ?? Eglitis
Hilfskraft ?? Kubulinsch
Hilfskraft ?? Auschkaya
Hilfskraft ?? Wikane

Abteilung V
SS-Hauptscharführer ?? Hüttner (firstname Friedrich or Alois or both)
SS-Hauptscharführer Walter Kreiman (? - 11.1943 KIA) Kriminalsekretär
SS-Hauptscharführer Adolf Rübe (18.05.1896 Karlsruhe - 23.06.1974)
SS-Hauptscharführer Hans Zeuschel (16.12.1906 Bayreuth) Kriminalsekretär
SS-Oberscharführer Heinrich Weller (11.05.1903 Birnbach) Kriminalsekretär
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Gersberger
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Schuth
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Pockler
Dolmetscher ?? Kreskowski
Hilfsbeamter ?? Osols
Hilfsbeamter ?? Plauke

unassigned
SS-Sturmbannführer Kurt Graaf (08.01.1909 Kiel - 02.09.1972) Führer SS-Jagdkommando
SS-Untersturmführer Karl Pierre (01.09.1911 Gebweiler) ? SS-Jagdkommando ?


KdS Minsk members staying in office during liquidation of Ghetto Sluzk:
SS-Sturmbannführer Paul Bohndorf (26.05.1892 Berlin) Kriminalrat, Abt.V
SS-Obersturmführer Johannes Feder (21.05.1911) - Abt.IV / Leiter "Zentralstelle für Bandenerkundung"
SS-Hauptsturmführer Felix Hartmann (Norway)
SS-Hauptsturmführer Arthur Wilke (01.02.1910 Inowrocław)
SS-Obersturmführer Dr.Georg Heuser (27.02.1913 Berlin - 30.01.1989 Koblenz) Kriminalkommissar
SS-Sturmscharführer Arthur Much (29.04.1893 Charbrow)
SS-Hauptscharführer Hans Zug (06.11.1902 Frommenhausen)
SS-Oberscharführer Otto Edel (27.05.1911 Dessau)
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Kohnenberger
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Kost
SS-Unterscharführer Hans Koch (17.02.1914 Stuttgart - 30.01.1946 Minsk executed)
SS-Oberscharführer Karl Frolik
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Kunzengruber
SS-Oberscharführer ?? Friedl
SS-Unterscharführer Friedrich Wolf
SS-Scharführer Walter Winzer (06.07.1901 Illmenau)
SS-Scharführer ?? Rau
Wachtmeister Herbert Rüdiger
Dolmetscher ?? Eiche
Dolmetscher ?? Geile
Dolmetscher ?? Schiro
Dolmetscher ?? Wohlfahrt


Regards Puck


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Re: KdS Weißruthenien/BdS Russland-Mitte und Weißruthenien

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Post by Ludger » 05 Jun 2018, 16:07

Minotauros wrote:Vertreter und Verbindungsoffizier der SIPO und des SD bei dem Chefs der Bandenkampfverbände

SS-Obersturmbannführer und Oberregierungsrat Dr. jur. Eduard STRAUCH
10 VII 1943 – 05 IV 1944
Hi Minotaurus,

according to Krausnick, H.; Wilhelm, H.-H. (1984): Die Truppe des Weltanschauungskrieges, S. 642f Himmler determined Strauch on 26.06.1943 to become Ic and Vertreter und Verbindungsoffizier der SIPO und des SD beim Chef der Bandenkampfverbände. The appointment took place in July 1943. So this was no function within KdS/BdS Minsk but within the staff of the Chef der Bandenkampfverbände.

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Post by Ludger » 05 Jun 2018, 16:28

Minotauros wrote:Abteilung III SD

SS-Sturmbannführer Hermann FRIEDRICHS [22 IV 1910 Berlin]
27 III 1943 - 13 XI 1943

SS-Hauptsturmführer [01 IX 1942] Rudolf SCHLEGEL [11 VII 1913 Chemnitz – 02 III 1979 Friedrichshall]
XII 1941 – III 1943

Beim Abteilung III SD der KdS Weißruthenien/BdS Russland-Mitte und Weißruthenien

SS-Hauptsturmführer Ulrich FRIEDRICH
SS-Hauptsturmführer Artur Friedrich WILKE [1910 Poznań]
SS-Untersturmführer Friedrich ECK [07 I 1904]
Schlegel and Wilke were both sentenced by the LG Koblenz on 21.05.1963 to 8 years (Schlegel) and 10 years (Wilke) and Georg Heuser to 15 years.

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Post by steve248 » 05 Jun 2018, 17:14

There were at least three SS-officers named Müller at KdS Kiew in 1943:

Alfred Müller (born 26 Aug. 1898), Pol.Insp., Uniformträger SS-Ustuf.

Gerhard Müller (born 1 Aug. 1910, Greifenhagen), promoted SS-Ostuf. 20 Aug. 1942, KdS Minsk Abt. IV B.

Rudolf Müller (born 16 Aug. 1908 Worms/Rheinland), Uniformträger SS-Ustuf.; came from KdS Warsaw/Abt. III in Jan. 1943 to KdS Kiew "als persönlicher Referent" to Ehrlinger.

But who was involved in the anti-partisan actions? Probably all three at different times.

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Post by George_W » 05 Jun 2018, 17:32

Gerhard Müller was mentioned once in BBL:

1942, promotion to KK of KK z.Pr. Gerhard Müller – listed with Stapo Frankfurt/Oder [BBL 4/1942]

This is the same man who served also in Stapo Litzmannstadt as Leiter of Referat II B 4, later known as IV B 4 (Judenangelegenheiten) in early 1944.

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Post by Ludger » 05 Jun 2018, 19:12

Puck wrote:SS-Obersturmführer Friedrich Oswald Merbach (27.04.1912 Gotha) SS #42604
I have a SS-Ostuf. Hans Erich Merbach (dob 10.05.1910/Gotha, dod 14.01.1949/executed in Landsberg). He was 3. Schutzhaftlagerführer in KL Buchenwald. Were they probably brothers?

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Post by steve248 » 05 Jun 2018, 21:37

I think this Fritz Merbach with KdS Minsk must be the younger brother of Hans Erich Merbach in Ludger's post:
27 April 1912 born Gotha-Siebleben
1 Dec. 1931 NS No. 860449
1 Dec. 1931 SS No. 42604
11 Sept. 1938 commissioned SS-Ustuf.
June 1939 SD-HA
20 Apr. 1941 promoted SS-Ostuf.
Oct. 41-Mar. 1943 SK 1b, SS-Ostuf.
April 1942 with KdS Minsk, Leiter Kraftfahrwesen and Pol.Insp.
May 1942 SS-Ostuf., RSHA II D 3b.
1959, under investigation in West Germany: Verantwortlicher in der Dienststelle des KdS Minsk für den Einsatz von Gaswagen im Jahr 1942
source: BAL, B162/4776

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Post by George_W » 06 Jun 2018, 00:41

SS-Stubaf. KR Paul Bohndorf (probably the same man) served also in Abt. V (Kripo) in KdS Breslau in early 1945. See this thread:
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... rt#p951712

Bohndorf mentioned once in BBL:

1942, SS-Stubaf. KR Bohndorf transferred from Kripo Dessau to Kripo Breslau [BBL 27/1942 from 27/06/1942].

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Post by Ludger » 06 Jun 2018, 13:12

steve248 wrote:April 1942 with KdS Minsk, Leiter Kraftfahrwesen and Pol.Insp.
May 1942 SS-Ostuf., RSHA II D 3b.
Hi Steve, thanks for the infos.
Just two questions to that:
* What does 'Leiter Kraftfahrwesen and Pol.Insp' mean and to which department of the KdS did it belong?
* Was he head of this RSHA-unit or just co-worker?

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Post by George_W » 06 Jun 2018, 14:01

Pol.Insp. (Polizei-Inspekteur) means that he was administrative Sipo officer in KdS, probably served in Abt.I/II (administration).

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Post by Ludger » 06 Jun 2018, 14:52

Thanks for your quick answer, George.

I already assumed that but wasn't really sure because head of motor transport matters and Polizei-Inspekteur is a bit too far away from each other. On the other hand it fits with respect to his job in II-D-3b/RSHA which is "motor transport matters of the SD".

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Post by steve248 » 07 Jun 2018, 13:17

But some times it was all available men....

5 Feb. 1943, instructions by KdS Weißruthien, Minsk (signed SS-Ostubaf. Strauch), about a plan for “8. und 9. Februar 1943 wird in der Stadt Sluzk von dem hiesigen Kommando [SK 1b] eine Umsiedlung der dortigen Juden vorgenommen” together with 110 member of the “lettischen Freiwilligenkomp.”. “Der Leitung der Aktion liegt in den Händen von SS-Ostuf. Müller.”
SS-Ostuf. Merbach of Abt I/II will participate in this Aktion. He was stationed at Grave No. 1 with I. Gruppe under SS-Stubaf. Breder.
source: USHMM, RG-11.001M reel 10.

Presumably Puck's original post comes from a similar document.

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Post by Minotauros » 27 Jun 2018, 08:23

steve248 wrote:There were at least three SS-officers named Müller at KdS Kiew in 1943:

Alfred Müller (born 26 Aug. 1898), Pol.Insp., Uniformträger SS-Ustuf.

Gerhard Müller (born 1 Aug. 1910, Greifenhagen), promoted SS-Ostuf. 20 Aug. 1942, KdS Minsk Abt. IV B.

Rudolf Müller (born 16 Aug. 1908 Worms/Rheinland), Uniformträger SS-Ustuf.; came from KdS Warsaw/Abt. III in Jan. 1943 to KdS Kiew "als persönlicher Referent" to Ehrlinger.

But who was involved in the anti-partisan actions? Probably all three at different times.

Good morning, dear Friends!

I have also an SS-Obersturmführer und Kriminalinspektor Otto MÜLLER [1907 - 1972] as head of Referat IV B of KdS/BdS Weissruthenien from December 1942 to July 1944.

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Post by George_W » 27 Jun 2018, 08:38

George_W wrote:Gerhard Müller was mentioned once in BBL:

1942, promotion to KK of KK z.Pr. Gerhard Müller – listed with Stapo Frankfurt/Oder [BBL 4/1942]

This is the same man who served also in Stapo Litzmannstadt as Leiter of Referat II B 4, later known as IV B 4 (Judenangelegenheiten) in early 1944.

16.1.1957 - "für tot erklärt"

George
I've just found second entry of Gerhard Müller in another BBL:

1941, transfer of KK z.Pr. Gerhard Müller from Stapo Linz to Stapo Frankfurt/Oder [BBL 21/1941 from 07/06/1941].

George

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