Horst von Keltner - Can Anyone Identify

[Ahnenerbe1]

I am looking for information on a Horst v Keltner who was allegedly in the LAH, this photo shows a high officer it appears and I do not believe this is him. He is supposed to have lived in Konigsberg, E. Prussia. Can anyone help provide any information? Thanks

[Harro]

Looks like a drawing instead of a photo. There is reference to a Freiherr Horst von Keltner online who was the second husband of Carla de Paula Lopes. I guess you found the images here...

http://www.de-paula-lopes.nl/lidworden/ ... index.html

The fact that Carla de Paula Lopes had a connection with the Second World War is an understatement. This was because her husband, Horst Freiherr von Keltner, was an Officer of the Waffen SS Leibsrtandarte Adolf Hitler [LAH].
She met him in the 50's in Brasil while she was a young interpreter. She was American, but spoke Portuguese, English and later German so ODESSA [Organisation der ehemaligen/entlassenen SS-Angehörigen], the clandestine Nazi escape network, hired her to teach and translate. She met a young LAH Officer who was charged in the Malmedy case in 1946 but supposedly escaped from the prison in Schwäbishe Halle [a town in the German state of Baden-Württemberg]. The Malmedy massacre (1944) was a war crime in which 84 American prisoners of war were killed by their German captors near Malmedy, Belgium, during World War II.

Horst Freiherr von Keltner made his way to Brasil where Carla de Paula Lopes taught him Portuguese and they fell in love, eventhough he was 21 years older than her! She claimed she was around a very large community of National Socialists who wanted to flee persecution after the war so that their families could survive and they could raise their children in peace. She had very detailed knowledge of 'Silent Help'; Gudrun Burwitz, the daughter of Heinrich Himmler, had her organization 'Stille Hilfe', known to help Nazis flee from Germany after the war. Predictably, the reports mention how 'Stille Hilfe' collaborated with the 'Odessa' organization. Carla de Paula Lopes [Frau von Keltner] knew the leader Otto Skorzeny and many, many others very well.

Horst Freiherr von Keltner traveled back to Germany with his new wife Carla de Paula Lopes when things quieted down. He introduced her to Skorzeny, Wolff, Gudrun, Dietrich, Peiper and the list goes on. She lived in Munich from 1955 to 1960. She reportedly traveled throughout Europe to fight former SS Veterans for the right to retirement. However, things came to an abrupt end, due to the fact that her husband was killed and she had to flee Germany for her life. She took her young daughter of just 10 years old, Countess Chistina Maria Skowronska, to the United States of America, to the estate where her parents lived in Nunda Rochester New York. Her father Anibal de Paula Lopes and his second wife Elizabeth Stone took it upon themselves to raise the child of Frau Carla von Keltner [she went by that name untill her death] so that she would be able to study and make a career.

The whole story looks like a complete fabrication. There's no Von Keltner in the Führerliste, there was never a Von Keltner indicted for Malmédy and there's no trace of a Von Keltner family in the German nobility.

[Ahnenerbe1]

Thanks Harro, I too believe this name may be fabricated. I met Carla, who told me these terrific stories about ODESSA etc, and I tried to find a v. Keltner but could not. She claimed many things, and a lot turned out to be true, but the v. Keltner link I am still scratching my head about. There is the wedding announcement printed in an old news paper, would these have been easy to make up back in the 50's?

[Harro]

Well, in those days it was much easier to act under a false name and I suppose it was relatively easy to claim in the States that you are the widow of some European count. I noticed that she made all her public claims that she was married to Freiherr von Keltner in the US after his alledged date of death in Europe.

[Understanding]

Harro, Carla von Keltner was my aunt who I met at a late stage in her life. A lot remains clouded. I did find her marriage in a Geaorgian newspaper and would very much like to find a copy of the documentation but do not know how to do so; I reside in The Netherlands:
[IN ALTANTA GEORGIA 31-10-1954]

Announcement is made of the marriage of the Countess Carla Skrowonska of Fairport and Baron Horst von Keltner of Berlin, Germany. The wedding took place Sept. 18 in Atlanta, Ga.
The bride is the daughter of Mr. A. de Paula Lopes of Fairport. The bridegroom was graduated from the School of Medicine at the University of Heidelberg ~ Heidelberg, Germany.

It might give us more inforamtion about Horst von Keltner. Her first husband was indeed a Polish count; that fact has been proven!